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Re: "information resource"

From: Stuart Williams <skw@hp.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 18:28:36 +0100
Message-ID: <415064C4.3080900@hp.com>
To: Walden Mathews <walden@eqwality.com>
Cc: www-tag@w3.org

Walden Mathews wrote:

>Hello,
>
>Could I suggest two small tweaks to the language:
>
>1) "is applicable to" should be "applies to" or "refers to".
>  
>
With all the talk elsewhere of identification and reference I'd wanted 
to avoid "refers to"... but otherwise I'd say editors discretion if the 
proposal 'carries'.

>2) At the end,
>    "Any resource that has a representation is an information resource."
>  
>
                                                                                                        
^^^^^^^^^^
This is a typo on my part and should be "a web resource" not  "an 
information resource".

>    needs the distinction:
>
>    "web accessible representation", does it not?
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>
Hummm... yes I think so.

>Thanks,
>
>Walden Mathews
>  
>

Thanks,

Stuart
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>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Chris Lilley" <chris@w3.org>
>To: "Jacek Kopecky" <jacek.kopecky@deri.org>
>Cc: "Stuart Williams" <skw@hp.com>; <www-tag@w3.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 12:40 PM
>Subject: Re: "information resource"
>
>
>|
>| On Tuesday, September 21, 2004, 5:37:35 PM, Jacek wrote:
>|
>|
>| JK> Hello all,
>|
>| JK> I applaud this proposal, as it results in a clearer and less
>| JK> philosophically encumbered spec. 8-)
>|
>| I agree - and further, it makes testable statements. It can be
>| determined whether a given resource is a Web Resource or not. It exposes
>| an electronic protocol (such as, for example, HTTP) and it can be
>| interacted with. It need not return a representation (it might refuse
>| to, or it might say there are no acceptable representations, etc) but
>| agin, this is all testable technical specification.
>|
>| It was not possible to determine whether a resource was an information
>| resource. By the very fact of someone referring to it, all resources
>| have at least one bit of information (the 'alleged to exist' bit).
>|
>| So, after a little further consideration post telcon (and my comments in
>| IRC show I was tending in this direction) I support the proposed
>| wording. I think the optional extra sentence is worthwhile, too.
>|
>| JK> Back to lurking mode,
>|
>| JK>                    Jacek Kopecky
>|
>| JK>                    Ph.D. student researcher
>| JK>                    Digital Enterprise Research Institute, Innsbruck
>| JK>                    http://www.deri.org/
>|
>|
>|
>|
>| JK> On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 11:39, Stuart Williams wrote:
>| >> Patrick,
>| >>
>| >> Yesterday the TAG discussed [3] a proposal [2]  to address your comment
>| >> [1] which I repeat below, slightly amended. The TAG asked me to give it
>| >> a wider airing by re-posting on www-tag.
>| >>
>| >> Proposal:
>| >>
>| >> 1) Replace all occurences of the noun phrase "information resource"
>with
>| >> the noun phrase "web resource".
>| >>
>| >> 2) Replace the defining sentence for the noun phrase "information
>| >> resource" (section 3.1 1st para, 1st sentence) :
>| >>
>| >>  "The term Information Resource refers to resources that convey
>| >> information. Any resource that has a representation is an information
>| >> resource."
>| >>
>| >> with
>| >>
>| >>  "The term Web Resource is applicable to resources for which web
>| >> acesssible representations are available and/or which may be interacted
>| >> with through an exchange of representations. Any resource that has a
>| >> representation is an information resource."
>| >>
>| >> 3) [Optional]  Consider adding a nearby sentence: "Colloquially, Web
>| >> Resources are said to be "on-the-web"."
>| >>
>| >> Best regards
>| >>
>| >> Stuart Williams
>|
>|
>|
>|
>|
>|
>| -- 
>|  Chris Lilley                    mailto:chris@w3.org
>|  Chair, W3C SVG Working Group
>|  Member, W3C Technical Architecture Group
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