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Re: "information resource"

From: Walden Mathews <walden@eqwality.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 13:18:50 -0400
Message-ID: <002801c49fff$10b10510$9bd4a8c0@WALDENNOTEBOOK>
To: "Stuart Williams" <skw@hp.com>, <www-tag@w3.org>

Hello,

Could I suggest two small tweaks to the language:

1) "is applicable to" should be "applies to" or "refers to".

2) At the end,
    "Any resource that has a representation is an information resource."

    needs the distinction:

    "web accessible representation", does it not?

Thanks,

Walden Mathews



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Lilley" <chris@w3.org>
To: "Jacek Kopecky" <jacek.kopecky@deri.org>
Cc: "Stuart Williams" <skw@hp.com>; <www-tag@w3.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: "information resource"


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| On Tuesday, September 21, 2004, 5:37:35 PM, Jacek wrote:
|
|
| JK> Hello all,
|
| JK> I applaud this proposal, as it results in a clearer and less
| JK> philosophically encumbered spec. 8-)
|
| I agree - and further, it makes testable statements. It can be
| determined whether a given resource is a Web Resource or not. It exposes
| an electronic protocol (such as, for example, HTTP) and it can be
| interacted with. It need not return a representation (it might refuse
| to, or it might say there are no acceptable representations, etc) but
| agin, this is all testable technical specification.
|
| It was not possible to determine whether a resource was an information
| resource. By the very fact of someone referring to it, all resources
| have at least one bit of information (the 'alleged to exist' bit).
|
| So, after a little further consideration post telcon (and my comments in
| IRC show I was tending in this direction) I support the proposed
| wording. I think the optional extra sentence is worthwhile, too.
|
| JK> Back to lurking mode,
|
| JK>                    Jacek Kopecky
|
| JK>                    Ph.D. student researcher
| JK>                    Digital Enterprise Research Institute, Innsbruck
| JK>                    http://www.deri.org/
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|
| JK> On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 11:39, Stuart Williams wrote:
| >> Patrick,
| >>
| >> Yesterday the TAG discussed [3] a proposal [2]  to address your comment
| >> [1] which I repeat below, slightly amended. The TAG asked me to give it
| >> a wider airing by re-posting on www-tag.
| >>
| >> Proposal:
| >>
| >> 1) Replace all occurences of the noun phrase "information resource"
with
| >> the noun phrase "web resource".
| >>
| >> 2) Replace the defining sentence for the noun phrase "information
| >> resource" (section 3.1 1st para, 1st sentence) :
| >>
| >>  "The term Information Resource refers to resources that convey
| >> information. Any resource that has a representation is an information
| >> resource."
| >>
| >> with
| >>
| >>  "The term Web Resource is applicable to resources for which web
| >> acesssible representations are available and/or which may be interacted
| >> with through an exchange of representations. Any resource that has a
| >> representation is an information resource."
| >>
| >> 3) [Optional]  Consider adding a nearby sentence: "Colloquially, Web
| >> Resources are said to be "on-the-web"."
| >>
| >> Best regards
| >>
| >> Stuart Williams
|
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|  Chris Lilley                    mailto:chris@w3.org
|  Chair, W3C SVG Working Group
|  Member, W3C Technical Architecture Group
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