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Re: "information resource"

From: Chris Lilley <chris@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 18:40:29 +0200
Message-ID: <1337094986.20040921184029@w3.org>
To: Jacek Kopecky <jacek.kopecky@deri.org>
Cc: Stuart Williams <skw@hp.com>, www-tag@w3.org

On Tuesday, September 21, 2004, 5:37:35 PM, Jacek wrote:

JK> Hello all,

JK> I applaud this proposal, as it results in a clearer and less
JK> philosophically encumbered spec. 8-)

I agree - and further, it makes testable statements. It can be
determined whether a given resource is a Web Resource or not. It exposes
an electronic protocol (such as, for example, HTTP) and it can be
interacted with. It need not return a representation (it might refuse
to, or it might say there are no acceptable representations, etc) but
agin, this is all testable technical specification.

It was not possible to determine whether a resource was an information
resource. By the very fact of someone referring to it, all resources
have at least one bit of information (the 'alleged to exist' bit).

So, after a little further consideration post telcon (and my comments in
IRC show I was tending in this direction) I support the proposed
wording. I think the optional extra sentence is worthwhile, too.

JK> Back to lurking mode,

JK>                    Jacek Kopecky

JK>                    Ph.D. student researcher
JK>                    Digital Enterprise Research Institute, Innsbruck
JK>                    http://www.deri.org/

JK> On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 11:39, Stuart Williams wrote:
>> Patrick,
>> Yesterday the TAG discussed [3] a proposal [2]  to address your comment
>> [1] which I repeat below, slightly amended. The TAG asked me to give it
>> a wider airing by re-posting on www-tag.
>> Proposal:
>> 1) Replace all occurences of the noun phrase "information resource" with
>> the noun phrase "web resource".
>> 2) Replace the defining sentence for the noun phrase "information 
>> resource" (section 3.1 1st para, 1st sentence) :
>>  "The term Information Resource refers to resources that convey 
>> information. Any resource that has a representation is an information
>> resource."
>> with
>>  "The term Web Resource is applicable to resources for which web 
>> acesssible representations are available and/or which may be interacted
>> with through an exchange of representations. Any resource that has a 
>> representation is an information resource."
>> 3) [Optional]  Consider adding a nearby sentence: "Colloquially, Web 
>> Resources are said to be "on-the-web"."
>> Best regards
>> Stuart Williams

 Chris Lilley                    mailto:chris@w3.org
 Chair, W3C SVG Working Group
 Member, W3C Technical Architecture Group
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