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Re: namespaceDocument-8: possible interaction with Namespaces in XML 1.1

From: Norman Walsh <Norman.Walsh@Sun.COM>
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 11:27:57 -0400
To: www-tag@w3.org
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/ Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com> was heard to say:
| Yes and yes, but I believe this might be difficult to achieve.  The
| TAG seems to be quite broadly unenthusiastic about URNs but they have
| enthusiastic partisans in the community.

Yeah. And on the TAG, too, even if in distinct minority :-)

|> Q2: Your text "URNs are not effectively usable" might lead me to believe
|> that there might be an effort ongoing to standardize how to retrieve
|> resources using URNs.  Do you know of such an effort?
|
| Yes, there are such efforts in the IETF; the acronym doesn't spring to
| mind, but that doesn't matter, because I'm sure that several other
| people will spring forward to explain why URNs are in fact retrievable
| and that TimBL and I are blowing smoke when we claim they're not.  I
| accept that mechanisms in principle exist to dereference URNs, it's
| just that I've never used a computer where such software was
| installed, so it's clearly far from ubiquitous.

Others have made those points, so I won't. There's also "OASIS
Extensible Resource Identifier (XRI) TC"[1] but I haven't looked at
it.

It will come as no surprise to Tim that I second Larry's observation:

  In the long run, I think it's easier to make a URNs retrievable than
  it is to make HTTP URLs permanent, and that the W3C should stop
  trying to make an anti-URN policy.

                                        Be seeing you,
                                          norm

[1] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/xri/

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