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Re: dilemma of cache: two types of image

From: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:05:08 -0400
Message-ID: <488EEB54.6080307@w3.org>
To: www-svg <www-svg@w3.org>

Hi, Jonathan-

Oops, and one more thing... as a developer, I suggest that you not ask 
developers these questions.  Developers are notoriously bad at UI 
design.  Ask a graphics designer with experience in UI work.  Put 
together a bunch of options, and try them out on a selection of users. 
Ask them what they think the symbol means, and don't ask leading 
questions, or you'll skew your results.

Regards-
-Doug

Doug Schepers wrote (on 7/29/08 4:25 AM):
> 
> Hi, Jonathan-
> 
> Jonathan Chetwynd wrote (on 7/29/08 3:59 AM):
>>
>> I am seeking suggestions from the SVGWG as to possible ways to 
>> graphically differentiate between feed icons and static icons.
>> it doesn't have to be mandated, required or enforced.
>>
>> underline and colour were used with some success for html.
> 
> As you know, this list is not intended for development advice, though... 
> please use the SVG-Developers list for that.
> 
> But as a developer, I would suggest that you create a custom cursor or 
> flyover icon, something that suggests a temporal component, but can be 
> paired with a corresponding static symbol.  It would likely have to be 
> something that is not already overused, and it would be best if it were 
> fairly universal (though that's tough, so you might need to meet the 
> expectations of your target audience).  The symbol itself should not 
> rely on animation, though it could incorporate it.
> 
> An hourglass is out, as that is used for "wait".  Similar for a clock. 
> Neither of them have a static equivalent, either.
> 
> Maybe the static image could be a little person icon standing straight 
> up, while the feed icon could be a man in a running stance (maybe with 
> animation).
> 
> Alternately, you could simply repurpose the existing feed icon [1] for 
> those images that are "live", and have no icon for the static ones. This 
> would have the advantage of using a well-known symbol.  If you go this 
> route, I'd mark it persistently, not just for mouseovers.
> 
> It would be interesting to work up some RDF to give information on how 
> frequently it is updated, under what conditions, etc., and supply that 
> info on mouseover.
> 
> [1] http://www.feedicons.com/
> 
> Regards-
> -Doug Schepers
> W3C Team Contact, WebApps, SVG, and CDF
> 
> 
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