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Re: UA: indicate missing content

From: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 02:40:16 -0400
Message-ID: <488EBB50.8080203@w3.org>
To: www-svg <www-svg@w3.org>

Hi, Jonathan-

Jonathan Chetwynd wrote (on 7/29/08 2:04 AM):
> 
> Your earlier emails do not appear to meet the needs, as if height and 
> width are not specified, what else would identify the checkerboard area?

You clearly haven't read the proposed wording, which I've pointed you at 
twice before now:

"If no adequate fallback content is supplied, the user agent should 
provide a placeholder rectangle or image with the position and 
dimensions specified by the element's attributes, if specified, *or 
custom dimension otherwise*, and the name of the invalid resource as 
visible text or as a tooltip."

So, my proposal is that if there are no stated dimensions, the browser 
renders the filename with a painted area big enough to surround the 
text.  Others disagree that anything at all should render, but we are 
still cleaning up the proposal.


> I don't appreciate your tone, my email was clearly addressed to erik, 
> and in response to his email.

I'm not overly concerned which of the SVG WG members you were 
addressing.  This is a public list, and anyone (even *gasp* SVG WG 
members!) is free to respond to any message.  You take great liberties 
with this policy yourself, so please stop calling into question the 
liberty of others to do the same.

My message was clear, concise, and polite, and it addressed your issue. 
  I pointed out the effort we are going to to address your concern. 
What part of my "tone" didn't you appreciate?

FWIW, it is disrespectful not to read directed materials before posting; 
I make a point of following the links you provide, and ask that you 
extend the same courtesy to others on this list.  To do otherwise wastes 
everyone's time.

[1] 
http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/master/linking.html#unresolved-resources

Regards-
-Doug Schepers
W3C Team Contact, WebApps, SVG, and CDF
Received on Tuesday, 29 July 2008 06:40:49 GMT

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