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Re: "maybe even in the fact that you use words as all," (sic)

From: Jonathan Chetwynd <j.chetwynd@btinternet.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:20:43 +0100
Cc: Bert Bos <bert@w3.org>, www-svg <www-svg@w3.org>, www-style@w3.org
Message-Id: <877C6F6A-1E18-4121-BE92-1289D14788D7@btinternet.com>
To: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>
fantasai,

if the CSS specification is failing to fulfill it's part in the w3c  
mission is that off topic?

what evidence do you have that anyone who is illiterate ever wrote  
anything with CSS?
can you cite an instance?

How useful do you imagine user style sheets are to someone with  
learning disabilities who is illiterate?

communication is a two way process.

You are attempting to deliberately exclude the community you are  
failing to serve, in order to do 'technical work' which has no  
validity or meaning unless it fulfills those obligations.

regards


Jonathan Chetwynd

j.chetwynd@btinternet.com
http://www.openicon.org/

+44 (0) 20 7978 1764


On 17 Jul 2008, at 20:09, fantasai wrote:

>
> Jonathan Chetwynd wrote:
>> Re: "maybe even in the fact that you use words as all," (sic)
>> Bert,
>> but what about if you don't?
>> like the relatively large community of people with learning  
>> disabilities.
>> about 20% of people in the UK are functionally illiterate.
>> you can try out or watch a short video here:
>> http://www.openicon.org
>> the failure of W3 working groups to engage with this community has  
>> ensured the have become even more socially disadvantaged and  
>> ostracized.
>
> Guys, this is WAY off-topic.
>
> From http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/
>  "This mailing list is for technical discussion on Cascading Style  
> Sheets
>   (CSS) and its specifications. All posts to this list must be about  
> the
>   development of the CSS specification itself. This list is also the
>   preferred place for discussing working drafts that are published by
>   W3C's CSS Working Group."
>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/ doesn't have a  
> description,
> but I expect s/CSS/SVG/g applied to the above would accurately  
> reflect its
> intended usage.
>
> Please take this discussion off-list, or find another list where it is
> on-topic. The CSS and SVG working groups need these lists to do  
> technical
> work: sidetracking threads like this detracts from our ability to  
> function
> efficiently and is very inconsiderate behavior.
>
> Also, if you want to argue with me about whether continuing this  
> thread
> on www-style/www-svg is appropriate or not, or complain that W3C  
> does not
> have better channels for your complaints, please contact me off-list.
>
> Thanks~
>
> ~fantasai
>
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