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From: Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org>
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 12:29:10 -0500
Message-Id: <p06110408bf99335a7b4a@[]>
To: "Jon Ferraiolo" <jonf@adobe.com>
Cc: <www-svg@w3.org>

Thanks for fixing these and the clear explanation.

I welcome your resolution of these comments.


At 3:51 AM -0800 11/2/05, Jon Ferraiolo wrote:
>This is the SVG WG response to your comment at
>(http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2005May/0252.html) which is
>copied below.
>Thanks for your comments.
>Regarding your first point, we agree that the wording in section 1.2.3
>warrants improvement and have made changes. One thing to point out is
>while SVG Tiny 1.2 is indeed a *baseline* definition of SVG, and indeed
>there will be other versions (e.g., SVG Full 1.2) which define
>extensions off of that baseline, SVG Tiny 1.2 is still a modularized
>spec and it is possible to define lesser profiles that Tiny. We have
>added clarification language to 1.2.3 which makes this more apparent.
>Here is the current text:
>1.2.3 Profiling the SVG specification
>This specification defines the baseline language definition for SVG 1.2.
>The specification is defined in terms of a series of modules, each of
>which consists of a collection of language features. The modular
>definition of the language enables alternate profiles of the SVG
>The Tiny profile of SVG 1.2 consists of all of the features defined
>within this specification. As a modularized baseline specification, it
>is possible for: superset profiles (e.g., SVG Full 1.2) which include
>all of the Tiny profile but add other features to the baseline; subset
>profiles; and special-purpose profiles which incorporate some modules
>from this specification in combination with other features as needed to
>meet particular industry requirements.
>When applied to conformance, the term "SVG Tiny 1.2" refers to the Tiny
>profile of SVG 1.2 defined by this specification. If an implementation
>does not implement the Tiny profile completely, the UA's conformance
>claims must state either the profile to which it conforms and/or the
>specific set of features it implements.
>Regarding your second point, we agree that there was a missing character
>for the Macintosh file type and have fixed the spec.
>Please reply to this mail within two weeks if these changes do not
>address your concerns.
>From: Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org>
>Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 16:48:37 -0400
>Message-Id: <p06110401bebbda09b2ee@[]>
>To: www-svg@w3.org
><quote cite=
>1.2.3 Profiling the SVG specification
>The modularization of SVG 1.2 allows profiles to be described by
>listing the SVG modules they allow and possibly a small number of
>restrictions or extensions on the elements provided by those modules.
>The "Tiny" profile of SVG 1.2 is the collection of all the modules
>listed in this specification.
>When applied to conformance, the term "SVG Tiny" refers to the "Tiny"
>profile of SVG 1.2 defined by this specification. If an
>implementation does not implement the Tiny profile, it must state
>either the profile to which it conforms, or that it implements a
>subset of SVG Tiny.
>Is this discussion perhaps left over from a prior state of the
>I thought that the intention was in this go-around to make the Tiny
>variant a standalone
>language, and to express other profiles of SVG 1.2 as extensions
>based on this core.
>In addition, I don't feel it was ever technically correct to say that
>the 'Tiny' profile of SVG 1.2
>*is* a collection of modules.  It is the language that results when
>these modules are integrated
>using a specific composition method.  Consider why there is a driver
>in the RELAX-NG
>schema stack.
><quote view="source" cite=
><p>It is recommended that SVG files stored on Macintosh HFS
>       file systems be given a file type of <code>"svg"</code>
>       (all lowercase, with a space character as the fourth letter).
>       It is recommended that <a
>       href="http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1952.txt">gzip</a>-compressed
>       SVG files stored on Macintosh HFS file systems be given a file
>       type of <code>"svgz"</code> (all lowercase).</p>
><comment class="editorial">
>The space character desired in the Mac file indication is missing
>from the specification
>text at this point.  See if
><code>"svg  "</code>
>won't get the space shown.
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