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Re: [svg-developers] Re: Human readable? semantic web and SVG 1.1 /2.0

From: Anders W. Tell <anderst@toolsmiths.se>
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 01:10:25 +0200
Message-ID: <3BCE0FE1.2030605@toolsmiths.se>
To: "Arnold, Curt" <Curt.Arnold@hyprotech.com>
CC: "'svg-developers@yahoogroups.com'" <svg-developers@yahoogroups.com>, "'sandro@w3.org'" <sandro@w3.org>, "'www-svg@w3.org'" <www-svg@w3.org>
I was one of the people involved in last years "microparsing" debate.

What I proposed then was basically a *simple* mechanism to bind a String 
(attribute or data inside tags) to a parser that could transform the 
string to an *equivalent* XML fragment. This binding could be stored in 
the annotation part of an XML Schema for attributes or elements.
This way it is possible to do a lazy binding from string to XML when 
needed and DOM bloat may be avoided.

I made this proposal because schema writers have already made misstakes 
and put information in a sigle attribute that really should have been in 
separate attributes or elements. So "non XML compliant" schema writing 
practices are drawn back into the XML family again.

Is a general rule, "microparsing" should not be needed, especially in 
the XML domain.

See initial proposal LC102 
<http://www.w3.org/2000/05/12-xmlschema-lcissues.html> for more info and 
last years resulting comments.


Arnold, Curt wrote:

> This regards a current thread on svg-developers@groups.yahoo.com (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/message/7512 and 50 or so messages following) and
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2001Oct/0045.html and following.
> This thread has apparently crossed over the svg-developers, I had replied on www-dom@w3.org (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2001Oct/0049.html) that the issue of microparsing had been
> brought up in other contexts (A google search on microparsing brought up about 3 pages on topic posts), a good summary is http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2001/04/25/deviant.html and
> http://www.w3.org/2001/06/blindfold/grammar)
> If we want to pursue this, then the appropriate thing to do would be to collaborate with other potential microparsers users and come up with solutions that address all our needs.
> It would be useful if some of the people involved in the earlier Microparsing debates could update the SVG community on the state on any work and any appropriate forum for continuing the discussion.

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