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Re: accessibility: svg degrading to gif, using embed?

From: Robert Diblasi <rdiblas@wpo.it.luc.edu>
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 12:23:09 -0600
Message-Id: <sc2086bb.026@wpo.it.luc.edu>
To: <j.chetwynd@btinternet.com>, <chris@w3.org>
Cc: <www-svg@w3.org>, <svg-developers@yahoogroups.com>
Jonathan,

 Hello and thank you for voicing your opinion about accessibility to the SVG community.....I have done the same 
please look at the list below for just a taste of topics:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/message/2676
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/message/3754
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/message/4230
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/message/4964
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/message/5094
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/message/8706
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/message/8998
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/message/9184

I am going to be covering the topic on my site http://www.svgnotebook.com 
I would look forward to working with you if possible :-)

I think SVG is/well be the graphic format of choice on the web.
That being said....SVG ...a text-based graphic format.... can lead to many 
interesting application that can work for all communities on the web!

You asked if there are others in the SVG community that are interested....I am one!

I like to point out that solving accessibility issues  not only help make communication 
easier individuals that use different devices.....it makes your web communications
enjoy a greater market and anticipates new technologies .....like text-to-speech and 
and using telephones to listen to the web.....SVG is a cool visual format.....but it has 
the amazing ability to cross over and be understood by other technologies with out 
changing the code one bit.........If you think of each image as a object ......describe the 
object with "title" or "desc" element.....and then group. Then describe the group...
and WoW! .....your have solved about 75 to 85 percent of the problems of accessibility
....this is just one technique ....there are other ways ....RDF is another.....I would be interested
in what you have to say......

We all learn by sharing what we know
Robert A. DiBlasi
www.svgnotebook.com (building)

 
>>> jonathan chetwynd <j.chetwynd@btinternet.com> 12/18/01 08:14AM >>>
How does one provide alternative images with embed*?
sorry if this is a duffers question, however I'm becoming concerned at the 
apparent lack of interest in accessibility being demonstrated in the various 
svg groups.

*using object we have: 
http://www.siliconpublishing.org/svgfaq/Starting.asp 

<object type="image/svg+xml" data="./mjr-svgopenwindow.svg" NAME="owMain" 
width="400" height="150" ></object>
Yes, but put something useful inside the object (that's why it has separate 
start and end tags, unlike img) - a JPEG file, or a text description, or 
both. This will be displayed by systems that can't yet display SVG. 

-- 
jonathan chetwynd

http://www.peepo.com "have fun surfing the net"
http://www.learningdifficulty.org 
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