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Re: [css3-images] [css3-background] Image/media fragments and cropping

From: Philippe Verdy <verdy_p@wanadoo.fr>
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 03:30:29 +0100
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To: "Tab Atkins Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com>
Cc: www-style list <www-style@w3.org>
2012/11/9 Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com>:
> I suggest sending this feedback to the Media Fragments WG, then.  I'd
> prefer not to add an explicit fragment syntax to CSS unless/until we
> determine that MF is broken and won't be fixed in a reasonable
> timeframe.

The CSS WG is concerned only because it makes a direct reference to
the MF just because of the presence of a fragment identifier, without
even knowing if that URL is referencing a media and where to locate

Bote that your definition just makes a mere use of the <uri>
definition, which is completely blind to document content-types (which
may also not be specified by the target of this URI).

A glue is missing, and in fact this suggests developping a common
Media Access API, that both the CSS specification and the MF WG would
reference. For now the only existing glue is the URI, it is clearly
NOT enough. An URI does NOT have by itself the properties of a media.
You need something to create a reference to a media (this exists in
HTML with the <image/> or <video/> element, and HTML could also make
use of this common Media Access API, where the URI is ONLY one of the
necessary properties and methods to support).

The MF just conscentrates on defining a specific encapsulation scheme
wihin some classes of URI, it does not say that this is the proper way
to reference the document containing them, that an HTML browser would
first need to know how to load and cache, preferably by using the
common API, rather than by trying to download the URI itself.) The URI
for downloading the image from within a source is not in the scope of
the MF WG (and it may need to another layer of encapsulation of the MF

Do you see my point ?
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