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Re: [css4-selectors] Focused descendant pseudo class

From: Brice PARENT <brice@websailors.fr>
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:57:06 +0100
Message-ID: <4F2193F2.4020603@websailors.fr>
To: www-style@w3.org
In the draft for :matches, it is said that it may not be combined with :not.
So we may use "!" inside to do the same, i don't really understand why
it couldn't be done using :not (like described in
http://dev.w3.org/csswg/selectors4/#matches).
My point is, if one (! or :not) may be done, let's do it without any
addings like "!", no?
Anyway, I totally agree that "!" is understood as NOT, and i was also
confused with !important at the beginning.

Le 26/01/2012 17:35, Brian Kardell a écrit :
> You gave:
>
>     form:matches(! > input:focus) input[submit] { display: none; }
>
> What do you mean "if we can negate the content :matches with a "!"" ?
>
> I guess it is possible that I misunderstand but I think that question
> might have just effectively +1'ed my point.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Brice PARENT <brice@websailors.fr> wrote:
>> Le 26/01/2012 16:33, Marat Tanalin | tanalin.com a écrit :
>>> 26.01.2012, 03:06, "fantasai" <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>:
>>>> On 01/25/2012 02:34 PM, Brian Kardell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  ! Or $   ?
>>>>>
>>>>>  :-)
>>>> Something. Or other. :) The problem with $ was that it's often
>>>> used for variables, so people didn't like that for that reason,
>>>> which is fair. I don't have a particular preference of ASCII
>>>> character.
>>>>
>>>> ~fantasai
>>> Currently we probably have too many syntaxes that have similar meaning:
>>>
>>> 1. ':scope' in Selectors 4 (dev.w3.org/csswg/selectors4/ );
>>> 2. '!'  in Selectors 4 (dev.w3.org/csswg/selectors4/ );
>>> 3. '&' in CSS Hierarchies Module (dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-hierarchies/ ).
>>>
>>> Instead, we could use one ':this' pseudo-element. I've initially proposed this pseudo-element in a thread related to potential '@with' at-rule:
>>>
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2012Jan/0371.html
>>>
>>> (':scope' may be considered as possible alternative for ':this', though use of ':scope' is questionable for me since it can be confusing when used in conjunction with HTML5 scoped stylesheets.)
>>>
>> Wouldn't this disallow the use of :this described in the linked page
>> about @rule?
>> In the examples with the @rule page, it seems like :this is to be
>> replaced by the content of @with, but the selector continues like it
>> always does, pointing to the last element.
>> Here, the :this would tell that even if the selector is continuing, this
>> is the element we want to be affected by the css rules.
>>
>> Anyway, as the topic is not this one, but "Focused descendant pseudo
>> class", i would say that
>> form:matches(! > input:focus) input[submit] { display: none; }
>> could be really usefull. Even if the "!" was changed to anything else...
>>
>> Quick question : if we can negate the content :matches with a "!", why
>> wouldn't that be possible to have :not(:matches()) or :matches(:not()) ?
>>
>>
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