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Re: Fast-track new people to areas www-style need the most help with

From: Matthew Wilcox <elvendil@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 14:56:46 +0000
Message-ID: <CAMCRKiJW-7EWc5tD8kTR8YXPjFk0NEvttT4rf+5Ua-+mtVSjnw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Alan Gresley <alan@css-class.com>
Cc: "www-style@w3.org Style" <www-style@w3.org>
>
> I do find the flippancy of this a little off-putting. To be very clear:
>> CSS's shoddy layout systems have been complained about, loudly, for many
>> years.
>>
>
> Can you please clarify why you believe CSS has a lousy layout system?
>

Anyone even vaguely familiar with layout in CSS is already familiar with
this. It has been written about for many years and is front and center of
most designers major wishes for improvement - innumerable blog posts and
articles attest to this [1]. There's a reason that a bunch of new layout
systems have been (and continue to be) developed, and why it's not just one
layout system but a few. None of which are final yet. They're all trying to
answer complaints about CSS layout that have been aired continually ever
since CSS first overtook old-school table layouts. The number and
complexity of such solutions on its own gives a strong indication of how
important layout issues are (and how much demand there is for better layout
capability).

[1] Including:

* http://24ways.org/2010/my-css-wish-list
* http://css-tricks.com/css-wishlist/
  In particular Shaun Inmann's very insightful comment which i agree with
100%,
  and Andy Clarke's comment on layout, and Eric Meyer - you have three
industry
  heavyweights right there. Very tellingly, this link also emphasises the
desire to
  have CSS's poor typography re-worked, by qualified typographers.
* http://mattwilcox.net/archive/entry/id/991 and
http://mattwilcox.net/archive/entry/id/1031/
* http://www.sitepoint.com/exploring-limits-css-layout/
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