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Re: [css3-images] Disposition of Comments DRAFT

From: Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:19:54 -0800
Message-ID: <CAAWBYDCzuymxG7ot=6itZwBSYGaCrt2SEMUjhwXowRR_r0E3zw@mail.gmail.com>
To: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>
Cc: "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 3:47 AM, fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net> wrote:
> http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-images/issues-lc-2012
> ====== On element() ======
> There's a ton of substantive issues on element(), particularly on the use of
> elements that are not in the document. Given:
>  - the number of issues and their relative severity
>  - the state of references to CSSElementMap

The reference is informative.  Nothing else needs to be said.

>  - various other things that are undefined (style resolution of elements
>    not in a document, anyone?)

This is an issue, but it needs to be defined for CSS in general.
Boris found it acceptable to call it explicitly undefined for now,
with a note recommending behavior that avoids the undefined behavior.

>  - and the fact that the currently-proposed solution requires either
> scripting
>    or presentation-only elements in the document even for simple cases like
>    "I want to use a bunch of statically-defined paint servers written in
> SVG"

Don't mix together the notions of "presentation-only HTML" and
"presentation-only SVG".  *Most* of SVG is presentation-only.  That's
the point.

Inserting something like <svg><defs><pattern
id=foo>...</pattern></defs></svg> into your document is not the same
thing as inserting dummy <div>s or something.  It would be *better* if
we could, say, embed SVG in a CSS file, but it's okay to insert them
into your HTML too.

(A future extension of element() that lets it take a URL so it can
point to a paint server in another SVG file will provide another nice
way to solve this.)

Received on Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:20:42 UTC

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