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RE: [CSS21] groove vs. outset with border-collapse / border-conflict-style-XXX tests

From: John Jansen <John.Jansen@microsoft.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:02:56 +0000
To: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>, Øyvind Stenhaug <oyvinds@opera.com>
CC: "public-css-testsuite@w3.org" <public-css-testsuite@w3.org>, "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-css-testsuite-request@w3.org [mailto:public-css-testsuite-
> request@w3.org] On Behalf Of fantasai
> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 12:42 AM
> To: Øyvind Stenhaug
> Cc: public-css-testsuite@w3.org; www-style@w3.org
> Subject: [CSS21] groove vs. outset with border-collapse / border-conflict-
> style-XXX tests
> 
> On 10/18/2010 08:44 AM, Øyvind Stenhaug wrote:
> > On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 18:51:27 +0200, Øyvind Stenhaug
> > <oyvinds@opera.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> 4)
> >> http://test.csswg.org/suites/css2.1/20101001/html4/border-conflict-st

> >> yle-074.htm
> >>
> >>
> >> Incorrect pass condition. Per the spec 'outset' takes preference over
> >> 'groove', but the pass condition expects the opposite.
> >
> > Actually, I see now that it isn't invalid since outset and groove are
> > supposed to be the same for border-collapse = collapse.
> 
> Hm, that's actually a spec clarification issue. I believe, from the border conflict
> section, that 'outset' and 'groove' are distinct styles. Otherwise they wouldn't
> be listed separately. (Note this section only applies to collapsed borders.)
> 
> The list of styles at the end of the Tables chapter should say "drawn the same
> as" instead of "same as".
> 
> > However, this does mean that it's really testing that outset=groove,
> > not border conflict resolution. And there is another test for that already.
> 
> These tests should be using colors in addition to styles, with the losing
> borders being assigned red and the winning ones green. That both makes it
> more clear which border has won, and also makes sure that the color is
> copied to the winning position together with the style.
> 
> ~fantasai
> 
Hi,

Thank you for your feedback. The CSSWG has addressed your concerns in the upcoming publication of the CSS 2.1 specification[1]. 

The CSSWG resolved to  change 'same as' to read 'drawn the same as'.

We hope this closes your issue.

Please respond before 14 March, 2011 if you do not accept the current resolution.

[1] http://w3.org/TR/CSS

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