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[css3-speech] reading list-style markers

From: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 10:25:45 +0900
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To: "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>
http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-speech/#lists

# When no list style is provided, the presentation of list items
# in the aural dimension is not specified by the CSS Speech module.

This sentence should be deleted. Everything must be specified.

# disc, circle, square
#   These list item styles are spoken as the equivalent word for
#   the shape, in the user's language.

Reading out "square" in front of each list item seems imho ridiculous.
These should map to a UA-defined (or user-defined) phrase or aural icon
that is appropriate for bulletted lists.

# decimal
#
#   This list item style corresponds to numbers beginning from 1.
#   These numbers are spoken as-is by the speech synthesizer, in the
#   user's language.

Remove the first sentence. What number it starts at is out-of-scope
for this module.

I think all of the numeric styles should be read out as numbers,
i.e. equivalent to 'decimal'.

I would also allow the UA to insert text before/after the list number
to indicate the start of the list. For example, a UA may want to read

   1. milk
   2. eggs
   3. broccoli

as

   Item One, milk
   Item Two, eggs
   Item Three, broccoli

We can allow the author to control that in CSS3 Lists with the
@counter-style rule, but at the CSS2.1 level it should be UA-defined.

# lower-latin, lower-alpha, upper-latin, upper-alpha
#
#   These list item styles correspond to ASCII alphabetical characters
#   (e.g. [a, b, c, ... z] or [A, B, C, ... Z]). They are spoken as-is
#   by the speech synthesizer, using the document language.
# lower-greek
#   This list item style correspond to classical Greek characters
#   (e.g. [α, β, γ, ...]). They are spoken using speech synthesis as
#   their equivalent "alpha", "beta", "gamma" words, in the user's language.

Again, the first sentence of these definitions should be removed, as defining
what the list style means is not the job of CSS Speech. Only defining how they
are rendered to speach is. In this case, the definition should be

  | lower-latin, lower-alpha, upper-latin, upper-alpha, lower-greek
  |   These styles are spelled out letter-by-letter by the speech synthesizer,
  |   using the document language. For example, 'lower-greek' would be read
  |   out as "alpha", "beta", "gamma", ... in English, and 'upper-latin' would
  |   be read out as /ɑ/, /be/, /se/, ... in French.

~fantasai
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