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RE: Making alternate stylesheets more useful + site selectors

From: Shropshire, Andrew A <shropshire@att.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:41:53 -0500
To: "'Felix Miata'" <mrmazda@earthlink.net>, "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>
Message-ID: <6BC169D8374E26408B536588741127981C841AE2@VNAX.gsi.grci.com>
I would agree that sites could be designed better sometimes.  

My perspective is from the developer side.  If I wanted to provide various 'skins' for my website to end users, how best to do that.

My CSS style sheets are very complex and I doubt an average user would take the time to figure them out and override them.  Since my site is for the public who may be using any browser, and some of the public may be color blind or have other issues with say the colors of my default css, would like to have the ability to provide alternate css stylesheets that make the site have high contrast or whatever.  


Regards,

Andrew Shropshire
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From: www-style-request@w3.org [mailto:www-style-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Felix Miata
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 7:31 AM
To: www-style@w3.org
Subject: Re: Making alternate stylesheets more useful + site selectors

On 2011/01/20 06:15 (GMT-0500) Shropshire, Andrew A composed:

> ...would like to see it in a standard so I don't have to worry about which
> browser end-users have or do the same thing 5 different ways.  The
> alternate style sheet mechanism is useful too, however it would seem the
> user has to select the alternate style sheet with every visit to the site....

Such things are symptom treatments, not disease treatments. They're defenses 
against offensive (rude) site design.

Better to spend the effort to rid the web of the disease.

What needs to be done is strongly evangelize polite design (starting with 
WCAG) to end the curse of designers' and stylists' archaic notion that 
browser defaults are inappropriate. If all sites were 100%-based[1][2], 
accepting that whatever browser defaults are set to are at least acceptable 
if not perfect, at least 2/3[3] of need to defend would disappear, making the 
web a much friendlier place.

[1] http://www.informationarchitects.jp/100e2r?v=4
[2] http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/userdefaultbased.html
[3] http://www.useit.com/alertbox/designmistakes.html

See also:
http://tobyinkster.co.uk/article/web-fonts/
http://www.w3.org/2003/07/30-font-size
http://www.wilsonminer.com/posts/2008/oct/20/relative-readability/
http://www.webdesignconferencing.com/web_design/the_web_is_not_paper
http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/rudeweb.html
-- 
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understanding rather than silver." Proverbs 16:16 NKJV

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