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Re: [css-device-adaptation] New draft

From: Rune Lillesveen <rune@opera.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 08:02:53 +0200
To: www-style@w3.org
Message-ID: <op.vks623pn8isf1p@id-c1005.oslo.osa>
On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 23:00:40 +0200, Simon Fraser <smfr@me.com> wrote:

> On Oct 18, 2010, at 2:47 AM, Rune Lillesveen wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 10:33:33 +0200, Rune Lillesveen <rune@opera.com>  
>> wrote:
>>> http://people.opera.com/rune/TR/ED-css-viewport-20101013/
>> I would like to remove the "default viewport width" concept from the  
>> spec and have the UAs replace it with a UA stylesheet like this if they  
>> want a default width:
>>  @viewport { width: desktop-width; }
> I think 'desktop-width' is confusing value here. It's not the width of  
> the desktop. I don't have a better alternative right now.

I do. We can just drop it. I don't really see a use case for it. The UA  
stylesheet could just use a px length instead. For instance:

   @viewport { width: 980px }

> I also think the 'device-width' and 'device-height' value names are  
> misleading, since the web view may not fill the entire screen. These are  
> more like 'window-width' or 'view-width'.

Not really. 'device-width' and 'device-height' are intended to be the same  
as in Media Queries. That is also the case for 'device-width' and  
'device-height' in the viewport meta properties in Safari (not testable  
for device-width, but setting content="height=device-height" gives 480px  
height and content="initial-scale=1" gives 356px (depends on you UI  
config, really) which is 'window-height'/'view-height').

The way to set the width/height to the window height with @viewport would  

   @viewport { width: 100%; }

Rune Lillesveen
Senior Core Developer / Architect
Opera Software ASA
Received on Tuesday, 19 October 2010 06:03:36 UTC

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