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Re: SVG/CSS WG Effects Task Force proposal

From: Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:02:03 -0600
Message-ID: <dd0fbad1001180702t3bfc4bb3h4e0220cdea8dba4@mail.gmail.com>
To: Erik Dahlstrom <ed@opera.com>
Cc: "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>, Chris Lilley <chris@w3.org>, Bert Bos <bert@w3.org>, Daniel Glazman <daniel.glazman@disruptive-innovations.com>, "Linss, Peter" <peter.linss@hp.com>
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 7:01 AM, Erik Dahlstrom <ed@opera.com> wrote:
> Dear CSS WG,
>
> Through recent discussions with the CSS WG, it has become clear that the
> groups have shared interests in a number of topics, including animation,
> transforms, layout, adaptive content, and many other areas.  It is in
> the mutual interest of our technologies, our implementers, and most
> importantly our users, that the technologies be as compatible as
> possible, reusing the same underlying models and mechanisms even where
> there are differences in syntax.  These technologies should work well for
> both CSS/HTML and SVG, for ease and consistency of implementation, and
> to share test suites.
>
> Here are a few features/specs the SVG WG has identified as relevant in
> this respect:
> * gradients and other paint servers
> * filters, including canned filter effects
> * transformations, including 2D and 2.5D (pseudo-3D)
> * animation / transitions
> * parameters
> * advanced text layout (along with XSL-FO WG?)
> ** wrapping text to a shape (optical kerning)
> ** sizing shapes to fit text
> ** vertical text
> * content layout
> ** adapting CSS flexible boxes to provide positioning and sizing for SVG
> elements
> ** extending calc() (or something similar) to provide general one-way
> constraints for element attributes and properties
>
> To ensure a clear and speedy channel for communication, the SVG WG
> proposes that we form a joint Task Force between the CSS and SVG WGs,
> tentatively called the Effects Task Force, and that we use the
> public-fx@w3.org mailing list to coordinate.  The deliverables of this
> TF would be specifications that apply to both CSS and SVG, with the
> details negotiable, but with an emphasis on rapid development.  The SVG
> WG holds 2 telcons per week, Monday and Thursday; we propose that some
> portion of the Thursday telcon be dedicated to the discussion of the
> Effects TF deliverables, as needed.
>
> Naturally, not all members of the CSS WG will be interested in all these
> topics, and many will have time constraints that prevent them from
> attending more telcons, so participation by individuals in the Effects
> Task Force will be optional; we encourage all those interested to join
> if if they cannot be active, however.
>
> If the CSS WG agrees, we will draft a charter for the Task Force.  W3C
> process requires only that the relevant specifications are listed in the
> charters of the participating groups; as long as the chairs of the
> groups agree to the TF, there is no need for AC or W3M approval.
>
> We look forward to your reply, and to future coordination on these matters.
>
> Regards
> /Erik, on behalf of the SVG WG (ACTION-2713)


As part of the impetus behind this proposal was driven by discussion
between me and Shepers, I support the creation of this task force and
would like to be a part of it.

~TJ
Received on Monday, 18 January 2010 15:02:55 GMT

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