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Re: [CSSWG] Minutes and Resolutions 2009-02-04: box-shadow and border-image

From: Brad Kemper <brad.kemper@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 19:41:17 -0800
Cc: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>, "Tab Atkins Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com>, "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>
Message-Id: <E03CF236-857A-4564-BA89-6C50F2D6E0C4@gmail.com>
To: robert@ocallahan.org

On Feb 9, 2009, at 5:23 PM, Robert O'Callahan wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Brad Kemper <brad.kemper@gmail.com>  
> wrote:
> On Feb 9, 2009, at 2:17 PM, "Robert O'Callahan"  
> <robert@ocallahan.org> wrote:
> Authors are not so easily confused by the variation of the name from  
> some esoteric naming standard as you are suggesting. Results are  
> what matter. Authors are used to getting the results they want  
> regardless of the name. For instance, we commonly use 'zoom:1' to  
> mean 'has-layout:true', and 'position:relative' to mean 'ie-bug- 
> mode:alternate' or 'control-stacking-order:more', and 'float:left'  
> to mean 'layout-mode:column', and 'margin-left: auto;margin- 
> right:auto' to mean 'this-block-align:center', and '*HTML' to mean  
> '@media (browser:ie6)'.
> Yes, I'm sorry you had to learn all that weird rubbish.

Thank you for your empathy.

The point is that authors use things like that all the time, and would  
rather have completely idiotic property names than to have their  
practical functionality removed. Someday we'll be able to create nice  
layout columns, in a wide variety of UAs, without using tables or  
floats to do so. But until then we'd rather use something called  
"float" to create a column that isn't really floating, than to have  
that power removed because of the name. So whatever you call the thing  
that creates drop shadows around boxes, it should have the features  
that make most sense for accomplishing what authors need it to  
accomplish (within practical limits, of course), to serve the greatest  
numbers of their users.
Received on Tuesday, 10 February 2009 03:41:58 UTC

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