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Re: CSS 2.1 'overflow' applicability to table row groups

From: Andrew Fedoniouk <news@terrainformatica.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:59:30 -0700
Message-ID: <48618A62.7090507@terrainformatica.com>
To: robert@ocallahan.org
CC: "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>

Robert O'Callahan wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Andrew Fedoniouk 
> <news@terrainformatica.com <mailto:news@terrainformatica.com>> wrote:
>     Robert O'Callahan wrote:
>         On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Andrew Fedoniouk
>         <news@terrainformatica.com <mailto:news@terrainformatica.com>
>         <mailto:news@terrainformatica.com
>         <mailto:news@terrainformatica.com>>> wrote:
>         Not really a problem, you can do that with tables already.
>     Sorry but to do what? Try this:
> Sorry, you're right. Most of the examples are actually using 
> fixed-height tbody.
>            "since people are using it" - haven't seen such uses to be
>         honest.
>            Any links?
>         I don't have links to live sites, only people's testcases.
>         However in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=423823
>         you can see a bug report about a Firefox 3 regression related
>         to scrollable table row groups; there are already five
>         duplicates filed by different people with different testcases,
>         which means they must all be using it. (And of course there
>         must be other people using it who don't encounter the
>         background bug or who haven't tested with Firefox 3 yet or who
>         haven't noticed it or who haven't reported it or who found an
>         existing bug and refrained from posting a duplicate...)
>     That simply means that people are looking for solution but does
>     not mean that they have found it.
> They have found a solution they consider acceptable, otherwise they 
> wouldn't be using it.
>     I would rather to start thinking about something brand new like
>     <grid style="overflow:auto"> with proper behavior
>     attached (e.g. handling of keys, row selection etc).
> Feel free. That doesn't address the question of what to do about 
> people using scrollable table row groups today.
I personally have no name for the activity  "spec says 'not applicable' 
in 5 years or so but we will try to use it anyway".
Only my condolences to them.

<quote src="http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visufx.html#overflow">
overflow: This property specifies whether content of a *block-level 
element* is clipped when it overflows the element's box....

<quote src="http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visuren.html#block-boxes">
Block-level elements are those elements of the source document that are 
formatted visually as blocks (e.g., paragraphs). Several values of the 
'display' property make an element block-level: *'block', 'list-item', 
and 'run-in' (part of the time; see run-in boxes), and 'table'*

Andrew Fedoniouk.
Received on Wednesday, 25 June 2008 00:00:20 UTC

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