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Re: <br> and generated-content

From: Daniel Glazman <daniel.glazman@disruptive-innovations.com>
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:35:37 +0200
Message-ID: <486CFFD9.1060606@disruptive-innovations.com>
To: Alan Gresley <alan@css-class.com>
Cc: Boris Zbarsky <bzbarsky@MIT.EDU>, Brad Kemper <brkemper@comcast.net>, "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>

Alan Gresley wrote:

> Precisely.

Oh come on, we're not on www-style to remake history
but to work on technical matters related to CSS.

The browser vendors made what was absolutely needed
to make the Web a mass-media from a network reserved
to scientists in labs. It's because browser vendors
insisted (apart from the original Hotjava experience)
on never refusing markup invalidity, moved so fast they
did not have time to standardize, that the Web is the
marvelous tool we know today. Not a perfect tool, but
not one user out of ten thousands cares about the
technical side of the Web. They just expect the Web to
work, whatever the technical skill of the Web authors.
And most Web authors - my dad is my best example at
all times - are not experienced web designers. The end
user does not care about it and even if my dad's page
is technically ugly, the visitor will throw away the
browser if he/she cannot visit my dad's page. Like it
or not.

Speaking of the Web as we know it, I think that fifteen
years of doing the wrong thing (according to you) AND
leading to a medium used on a daily basis by hundreds of
millions of people and becoming mandatory for education,
science, work, government and all areas of life just
CANNOT be called a real failure. So much for the "wrong

You can be a perfectionnist and troll here forever, that
will NOT change that fact. That said, can we please come
back on Earth and could you please listen to the browser
implementors when they say "no, that just cannot be like
that" ? Thanks.

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