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Re[20]: css with attribues [software]

From: Dmitry Turin <sql4-en@narod.ru>
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:18:55 +0200
Message-ID: <151113003125.20080117151855@narod.ru>
To: www-style@w3.org

David,

DD> division between non-presentational HTML attributes that are likely
DD> to be reused (with the same values) across multiple documents on a
DD> site and those which are not.

i.e. you are agree to apply css for this mentioned reused attributes ?

>> I'm accepting your argument.
>> Let attributes in css will be media-specific.
>> I'm listen your objections for this variant.
DD> that could reasonable change under different media types

  Otherwise he will must remember, which characteristics
(attributes-properties) spread from particular media to all media,
and which are not.
  Accepting media-specificity for attributes,
author will specify for 'all' media.

>> DD> "I am writing HTML, therefore I am entering content and
>> describing its semantics".
>> No (and presentation also).
DD> No. Presentation has (mostly) ...

"No" and "mostly" simultaneously ?

DD> ... been stripped from HTML ...

agreed

DD> ... and the few
DD> remaining bits of presentation are things, that best practice
DD> recommendations say should be avoided.

What is these things ? Please, list.

>> DD> "I am writing CSS, therefore I am describing how the
>> DD> semantics should be represented to the user".
>> Yes, but with redundant 'style='.
DD> Authors do not have to use style attributes (and generally should not
DD> use them).

I.e. create unique class for unique place of site ?

>> DD> CSS expert working on the look while HTML experts work on the  
>> content
>> My signature at the end of each letter is content or look ??!!
DD> It is content.

Strongly disagreed !!
It is look. Even existance of XSL says about my rightness !!

>> Multiple repeated attributes ON CONCRETE SITE are 'look' ONLY,
>> independently of how W3's officials specify them.
>> DD> presentation in CSS and semantics in HTML works just
>> DD> fine, with little duplication of effort
>> Please, multiply to quantity of population, than to quantity of
>> pages on sites - and you will get real number of duplications,
>> which are quite not little.
DD> The vast majority of duplicated content is wholesale blocks of
DD> content (such as page footers)

Objection is not suitable, because describe other case -
duplication of element's content _and_ element's attributes
(instead of duplication of attributes only).



Dmitry Turin
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