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Re: [BULK] - Re: [XHTML2] Spirit of "1.1.3. XHTML 2 and Presentation" (PR#7759)

From: Paul Mitchell <paul@paul-mitchell.me.uk>
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:23:39 +0000
Message-ID: <43F106EB.8020608@paul-mitchell.me.uk>
To: www-style@w3.org

Bert Bos wrote:

>On Saturday 11 February 2006 21:50, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
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>>Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote:
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>>>* Boris Zbarsky wrote:
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>>>>><?xml-stylesheet href="#xxx" type="text/css"?>
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>So the current situation is still that there is no spec and you can't 
>expect fragment identifiers to work, except in the special case of an 
>XSL style sheet embedded in an XML document. Any other kind of style 
>sheet embedded in any other kind of document is unlikely to work and 
>may some day even be forbidden.
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If the problem could be solved, it would have been solved by now. 
Embedded stylesheets require datastream-oriented UAs to behave 
irrationally, and makes coding difficult. If the webgov cannot stomach 
prohibiting this hideous idea, at least strongly discourage it by 
deprecation.

>I've updated the text[1] with an overview of the unsolved problems.
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>[1] http://www.w3.org/Style/styling-XML#Embedded
>[2] http://www.w3.org/TR/xml-stylesheet
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You cover the many issues well, but I have a style criticism.

There's not enough fire and brimstone for the non-techies. Don't be coy. 
When you say "<strong>As of February 2006, there are still technical 
problems with this and no formal specification exists</strong>", I'd 
follow with a translation, which is something like "<h1><blink>IN OTHER 
WORDS, THIS IS WRONG, HORRIBLY HORRIBLY WRONG! DO THIS AND YOU'LL GET 
HELL! DON'T SAY YOU WEREN'T WARNED!</blink></h1>".

But that's just me. Good thing your page isn't a wiki. :)
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Paul Mitchell
www.paul-mitchell.me.uk
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