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Re: [BULK] - Re: [XHTML2] Spirit of "1.1.3. XHTML 2 and Presentation" (PR#7759)

From: Bert Bos <bert@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 19:00:58 +0100
To: www-style@w3.org
Message-Id: <200602131900.58315.bert@w3.org>

On Saturday 11 February 2006 21:50, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
> Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote:
> > * Boris Zbarsky wrote:
> >>> <?xml-stylesheet href="#xxx" type="text/css"?>
> >>
> >> Are you aware of any UAs implementing this?  I'm not, nor do I see
> >> how any could exist given that the Note in question (not a Rec,
> >> btw) is so badly underspecified.
> >
> > "W3C Recommendation 29 June 1999"?
> I'm talking about <http://www.w3.org/Style/styling-XML#Embedded>.  I
> assume you're talking about <http://www.w3.org/TR/xml-stylesheet/>? 
> In which case you're right that it's a Rec, but it's just as
> underspecified.  Please see
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=193924 and
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61675 for some
> discussion on that.  ;)

When I originally wrote that text[1], now about six years ago, I still 
thought the problems were minor and there would soon be a consensus on 
how embedded style sheets were supposed to work.

About two years ago, the CSS WG noticed that there were still no 
implementations and therefore asked the XML Core WG if they could add 
something to the spec[2], either to define it better or to say that 
fragments weren't allowed.

Since then, the question has made its round through various groups in 
W3C that each couldn't solve the problem but succeeded in finding more 

So the current situation is still that there is no spec and you can't 
expect fragment identifiers to work, except in the special case of an 
XSL style sheet embedded in an XML document. Any other kind of style 
sheet embedded in any other kind of document is unlikely to work and 
may some day even be forbidden.

I've updated the text[1] with an overview of the unsolved problems.

[1] http://www.w3.org/Style/styling-XML#Embedded
[2] http://www.w3.org/TR/xml-stylesheet

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