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Re: CSS is doomed (10 years per version ?!?)

From: Laurens Holst <lholst@students.cs.uu.nl>
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 16:54:02 +0200
Message-ID: <42C5590A.7080804@students.cs.uu.nl>
To: Orion Adrian <orion.adrian@gmail.com>
Cc: www-style@w3.org

Orion Adrian wrote:

>Hardly. But their turn-around is closer to 5 years, not 10. And yes,
>there is a long time between when CSS 1.0 was released and CSS 2.1 was
>released. I trust the iterative nature they have.
Could you please drop the 10 years? You are comparing a number that 
included 5 years of user adoption time with a number that doesn’t. The 
turn-around (as-in implementation is available after specification) of 
CSS is also closer to 5 years.

>This was a majorly good thing. I liked this a lot. Though the fact
>that CSS3 is a monstrosity that will never be actually implemented in
>full is another story. Who needs all those properties?
We’ll see. Although I agree that it is big, a lot of the things in it 
also make sense.

But really: CSS 2.0 was also bigger. CSS 2.1 is based on the actual 
implementations that resulted from CSS 2.0. We will see a similar CSS 
3.1 in due time.

>>So the only difference really is: it is proprietary. With all the
>>disadvantages that carries.
>And all the advantages it carries. There are some you know.
Not many, and they are overshadowed by the disadvantages. I don’t see 
how you couldn’t mind "vendor lock-in". Aren’t you glad you can use 
Firefox now? Haven’t you learned by now that as soon as Microsoft gains 
a monopoly, their innovation slows to a halt (evidence: Internet Explorer)?

Vendor lock-in is bad and undesirable. No matter how you look at it. 
Competition and standards are good.

>Yeah, but they will. XAML/.Net competes directly with
>HTML/CSS/Javascript. I hope everyone here sees that.
That is nonsense. XAML does in NO WAY compete with HTML / CSS / 
Javascript. They are orthogonal languages. HTML is for creating 
documents. XAML is for creating user interfaces, like XUL is.

I also do not believe Microsoft will create a proprietary alternative to 
CSS. I just cannot imagine them going that way.


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Laurens Holst, student, university of Utrecht, the Netherlands.
Website: www.grauw.nl. Backbase employee; www.backbase.com.
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