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Re: XHTML as XML

From: Jesper Tverskov <jesper.tverskov@mail.tele.dk>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:47:41 +0100
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I am talking about XHTML 1.1 served as xml. If you validate such a page,
the id attribute in the html element is ok but not the class attribute.
Since I would like to be able to validate my pages, I can't use the
class attribute in the html element but it is true that the browsers
don't care. They only test for well-formedness.

Nice to know that Opera considers it a bug, what about Amaya? It is much
more important to convince the web community why such a radical new
approach to the body and the html elements is necessary when XHTML is
served as xml.
 
Web developers are going to hate W3C for this, and it's going to make
the transition to an xml based internet more difficult. The arguments
for such a radical new approach better be good or the new approach will
help undermine the authority of the W3C.

Let us hear the arguments.
 
Best regards,
Jesper Tverskov

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Fra: Ian Hickson [mailto:ian@hixie.ch] 
Sendt: 10. februar 2005 09:35
Til: Jesper Tverskov
Cc: www-style@w3.org
Emne: Re: XHTML as XML

On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Jesper Tverskov wrote:
> 
> Only Mozilla/Firefox wants us to both style the html element and the 
> body element for the same thing. This is redundant and no fun since
the 
> DTD doesn't allow the use of the class attribute in the html element.

You can just replace "body" with "html" in your stylesheet and it will 
work everywhere. (The fact that "class" and "id" don't apply to <html> 
elements in HTML4 is IMHO an error with HTML4, and it will be corrected
in 
the Web Apps 1.0 proposal [1]. Browsers support this anyway so if you
want 
to use class and id attributes on <html> it will work.)

FWIW, Opera do consider the fact that styling <body> affects the whole 
canvas in XHTML in Opera to be a bug (I work for Opera).

[1] http://whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/

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