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Re: [CSS21] Contradiction in the spec with auto-offset fixed-position elements

From: Andrew Fedoniouk <news@terrainformatica.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 11:40:50 -0800
Message-ID: <016b01c4c501$afd83d80$0c01a8c0@TERRA>
To: "Boris Zbarsky" <bzbarsky@MIT.EDU>
Cc: "Ian Hickson" <ian@hixie.ch>, <www-style@w3.org>

| Boris:
| No. For example, consider <http://w3.org/Style/CSS/>.  The layout of
| this page is not really doable with your proposal.

OK. Let's take a look from other prospective on this page:

Formally speaking this page just has scrollbars detached from scrollable 
area.

Lets think that scrollbars of the view are just "observers" of the state of
***any*** scrollable area (overflow:auto) in the document. Wouldn't it be 
better?

At least this will be more generic - it will support not only one scrollable 
area.
And yet this will easy solve other fundamental problem with scrollbars in 
HTML.

With the fixed and other artificial positionings you will never
stop fighting with problems like this:
http://terrainformatica.com/w3/ff-css-main.png

See, each new positioning schema adds one more "dimension" in the spec.
So length of long lists of exception in the spec is in *power dependence* 
(math.)
from number of different positionings.

Andrew Fedoniouk.
http://terrainformatica.com


Original Message from: "Boris Zbarsky"
| Andrew Fedoniouk wrote:
|
| > Combination of elements in normal flow and scrollable areas whould be 
far
| > enough, no?
|
| No.  For example, consider <http://w3.org/Style/CSS/>.  The layout of
| this page is not really doable with your proposal.
|
| -Boris
| 
Received on Sunday, 7 November 2004 19:41:09 GMT

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