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Re: thoughts on non-compliant browsers

From: Robert Koberg <rob@koberg.com>
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 15:35:15 -0800
Message-ID: <404BB1B3.1020806@koberg.com>
To: Boris Zbarsky <bzbarsky@MIT.EDU>
Cc: www-style@w3.org

Boris Zbarsky wrote:

>>The reason i bring this up is because we have built a beautiful, 
>>standards compliant, 3 column, tabless layout which works in all 
>>browsers. The problem occurs when a user resizes the text up in mozilla.
> 
> 
> The text resizing feature is a feature for users who can't read the text at the
> size it is.  It's essentially a !important font-size setting in the user
> stylesheet, which is quite nicely in line with the CSS specification, from the
> point of view of the page.

I am not sure I understand your point. Are you saying that pixel sizing 
of fonts has no value? that it, in reality, has no meaning?

Perhaps you didn't read my entire post or simply selectively snipped, 
but I explained why we choose pixel sizing for *one* part of the page 
which has large text to begin with.

> 
> I'm not sure why you think this feature is picking on pixel font sizes in
> particular, since it also modifies the sizes of fonts specified in em, in, cm,
> mm, pt, and so forth.

Pixel font sizes is the problem we face if we want mozilla to render the 
page correctly.

So, Boris, should I take it that you are not in favor of conforming to 
standards? Or are you saying there should be no such thing as pixel font 
sizes? Why is it in the spec?

Doesn't this make mozilla a sh*tty browser?

best,
-Rob

> 
> Cheers,
> Boris
> 
> P.S.  I guess you would view a browser feature that simply disables all author
> CSS as an unwelcome violation of the CSS standard too, huh?
> 
Received on Sunday, 7 March 2004 18:33:00 GMT

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