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frustrated with css/box model

From: Noel Akins <nakins@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:40:42 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID: <20031017164040.65078.qmail@web80404.mail.yahoo.com>
To: www-style@w3.org

I hope this is the correct place to post this. If not,
let me know please.

I'm a little dyslexic, and my father was a
perfectionist, which make be perfectly suited for
designing web pages.

My problem with using css and the box model has been
compounded by a school of thought on web design that
has gained in popularity, that being scalable "fluid"
design. Also, I've been trained to not use javascript,
or flash, or just about anything, because "the user
might not have it on" or have a browser that is so old
that it won't work in it.

But, you are (as i've been trained) supposed to design
a single doc that works just as well in a user's
screen that is 1024 x 768 as it does on his palm pilot
and his 42" lcd tv. And it also has to work for blind

This means that those who are doing html/css/xhtml
right are basically making pages that look like pages
from the early days of html, all text.

Something has to be done! 

The box model needs to be looked at, or at least the
tools by which we have to use to work with the box
model need to be added to. Font size also needs to
scale depending on the users window size.

One thing I would like to see that coud be done is add
client window size to the http header. By doing so, a
page could be created for their window that they could
actually use and enjoy or benefit from using.

Trying to use floats to make the box model do
something it can't is stupid. All these other hacks
are stupid. 

Now that MS has won the browser war, they are going to
make something else that won't follow anyones rules
but their own. A real effort use be made into making a
usable web writing technology, put it into browsers,
and removing old browsers.  We don't have hitching
posts in parking lots. We don't have telegraph keys in
homes. No gas lights. It's the 21st
century. I don't have a flying car, but, I should be
able to build a web page that works that looks like it
was made in the 21 century.
Received on Friday, 17 October 2003 13:44:21 UTC

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