W3C home > Mailing lists > Public > www-style@w3.org > September 1999

Re: Speak-Punctuation (+spoken ruby)

From: Garth Wallace <gwallace@usc.edu>
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 20:22:50 -0700
Message-ID: <37E99D0A.3BF1E52B@usc.edu>
To: www-style@w3.org
Garth Wallace wrote:
> 
> www-style-request@w3.org wrote:
> >
> > Still cleaning my mailbox....
> >
> > Garth Wallace writes:
> > > Maybe something like speak-as that would take a string
> > > containing only words (or possibly pronunciation symbols?
> > > I don't know if Unicode has those, though it seems to have
> > > everything else). Otherwise, changes would be required in
> > > HTML, XML, and probably stylesheets as well.
> >
> > Yes, Unicode has the IPA (International Phonetic Alphabet) symbols.
> 
> Can't say I'm surprised. Last time I checked, they were seriously
> considering adding the runes Tolkein made up for "The Lord of the
> Rings". I think they were waiting to hear from ISO.
> 
> > The attribute with the pronunciation was, I believe, first suggested
> > by Dave Raggett, many years back. The people of the WAI (Web
> > Accessibility Initiative) have also been discussing it in some working
> > groups. (Type "phonetic" or some such in the W3C search engine to find
> > the e-mail threads.)
> 
> Thanks for the tip! There would have to be something in CSS
> to go with it, and something in XML to designate an attribute
> with that sort of behavior, I think.
> 
> > Dave is still working on the issue, in the context of the "voice
> > browser" activity of W3C. See http://www.w3.org/Voice/ (in particular
> > http://www.w3.org/Voice/Activity.html#role) and
> > http://www.w3.org/TR/NOTE-voice
> >
> > > In a related topic, I noticed that in the International Layout
> > > WD, under Ruby, there is no mention of aural properties. I
> > > would assume that the ruby text and not the base would be
> > > spoken, since the ruby is there to show pronunciation
> > > anyway.
> >
> > Yes, I would assume the same. Although maybe it should be an explicit
> > property: ruby | base | both.
> 
> Probably a good idea. Although you might be able to get
> the same effect with clever use of "speak: none"
> 
> --
> "Home is where you wear your hat."
>       - Dr. Emilio Lizardo (John Lithgow), "Adventures of Buckaroo
> Banzai"
> 
> (please remove __ from address to reply)

-- 
"I don't have to take this abuse from you--I've got hundreds
of people waiting to abuse me."
	  - Venkman (Bill Murray), "Ghostbusters"
(please remove __ from address to reply)
Received on Wednesday, 22 September 1999 23:22:53 GMT

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.2.0+W3C-0.50 : Monday, 27 April 2009 13:54:00 GMT