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Re: default.css

From: Todd Fahrner <fahrner@pobox.com>
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 12:07:42 -0700
Message-Id: <v03102803b1823c268ec5@[206.245.203.103]>
To: Tantek Celik <tantek@cs.stanford.edu>, Bert Bos <Bert.Bos@sophia.inria.fr>, www-style@w3.org
Tantek Celik wrote (11:31 AM -0700 5/15/98):

" I'd say keep the 'list-style:none' - all Mac users should upgrade to Mac IE
" 4.01 (which fixes this problem).

No - they'll need to wait for 4.02 in order to view any page referencing
images in which a line-height is specified on the containing element. I
don't mean to be harsh (I know you also find this frustrating), but you
know that without a conformance certification program, the next release
will also contain a few page-killing CSS bugs (the odds are favorable). So
then they'll need to wait for 5.0, which will really only be a preview of
5.0a, which in turn will only be a "teaser" release for 5.01, which might
finally implement 90% of the CSS1 specification, 88.35% of it correctly. Of
course, by this time, the ratio of fatally-flawed to passably conformant
CSS browsers in use will be around 10000:1.

Maybe take a hint from the deity of the Jews, Christians, and Muslims, who
regretted his first release strategy when things got out of hand, and
drowned them all except for Noah: the one conformant guy.

What am I talking about? As soon as you find "Noah" (i.e., develop a
certifiably conformant CSS1 UA), make it not recognize CSS1 pointers, but
only some non-backwards-compatible means of pointing to CSS1. This will
finally let authors use CSS1 without fear of rendering their documents
inaccessible to the millions and millions of people who would never think
of using any other browser than what came burned onto the OS install CD.

Same thing appears to be happening with HTML, btw: if you *really* want
client parsing of your HTML documents, it seems you'll have to rewrite them
to be XML. You've gotta parse to do CSS right anyway, but that will break
most HTML pages. So a Flood strategy is appropriate.

Crazy idea from Todd Fahrner? See this thread:

http://x12.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=353311223;CONTEXT=895258610.1112670218;hitn
um=0


Todd Fahrner
mailto:todd@lowbrow.com
http://www.verso.com/agitprop/

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