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Re: MSIE 4.0 and element boxes

From: gordon <gordon@quartz.gly.fsu.edu>
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 17:23:02 -0800
Message-ID: <009d01bd1b0a$cde98ca0$ccf1d9cf@epidote>
To: <www-style@w3.org>, "Eric A. Meyer" <emeyer@sr71.lit.cwru.edu>
The same rendering that you describe is had with MSIEv4.01 for Win95.
The Internet Client SDK does not list the paragraph element in the 'applies
to' section of the width property.

In the CSS-1 spec:
4.1.2    Horizontal formatting
The horizontal position and size of a non-floating, block-level element is
determined by seven properties: 'margin-left', 'border-left',
'padding-left', 'width', 'padding-right', 'border-right' and 'margin-right'.
The sum of these seven is always equal to the 'width' of the parent element.

To me this means that a paragraph whose parent is the body element will be
as wide as the body element.


-----Original Message-----
From: Eric A. Meyer <emeyer@sr71.lit.cwru.edu>
To: www-style@w3.org <www-style@w3.org>
Date: Tuesday, January 06, 1998 2:47 PM
Subject: MSIE 4.0 and element boxes

>   I posted this is c.i.w.a.s. as part of a longer message on the release
>of MSIE 4.0 final for the Macintosh, but I thought I'd bring it up here as
>well.  If you have MSIE 4.0 final for either Mac or Win95, try this:
>   <P style="border-right: double red 10px;">
>   This is a paragraph.
>   </P>
>On my Mac, the border appears all the way at the right edge of the browser
>window.  Similarly, if you use the following:
>   <P style="background-color: red;">
>   This is a paragraph.
>   </P>
>...the red box will span the entire width of the browser window.
>   This is just plain wrong, isn't it?  I mean, I read the specification to
>say that the default padding on each side of an element box should be zero,
>but MSIE seems to be generating something like 'auto' (not that such a
>value is permitted for any padding property), or perhaps assumes that
>elements default to 'width: 100%;' instead of 'auto'.  This is really
>strange, especially since MSIE4.0b2 for the Mac seemed to be calculating
>element boxes correctly...
>   As an aside, MSIE4.0/Mac's CSS support is almost exactly on par with the
>Windows95 version.  If only the Mac version supported 'text-transform', it
>would actually exceed the Win95 version's support.  (I picked that property
>because it seems to be one of the few which is supported on Win95 but not
>on the Mac.)
>Eric A. Meyer  -  eam3@po.cwru.edu  -  http://www.cwru.edu/home/eam3.html
>  Editor, WebReview's Style Sheets Reference Guide
>  http://style.webreview.com/
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