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Re: Proprietary Properties?

From: Todd Fahrner <fahrner@pobox.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 15:55:29 -0800
Message-Id: <v0310280bb0b3869552fb@[]>
To: "Eric A. Meyer" <eam3@po.cwru.edu>, www-style@w3.org
Eric A. Meyer wrote (5:28 PM -0500 12/9/97):

"    I agree with you completely about CSS1 implementations.  However, are
" these "proposed CSS properties" implementations of properties which were
" part of the proposed CSS2 specification, or are they properties which
" Microsoft proposed and then campaigned to get into the specification?  (I
" note that they all seem to be there in one sense or another, at least in
" the Index.)
"    There is, I hope ye ken, a small but crucial difference.

What's the difference? Vendors propose all kinds of things. If they are well-documented and harmonious with established architectural principles, I see no problem with this. Implementing first is a bit different, but not out of line with this statement:


<div class=rant>
If you have a Mac, you won't be able to read this document in a CSS browser because MS insists on using points, their only non-buggy CSS unit. Once again, using points for screen display is out of line with the CSS1 (and CSS2) recommendations; viz: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS1-961217#length-units

" >or the real "ex" unit (not just .5 em).
"    Is that what they did?  Bleah.  


" This means that the compatibility charts
" in my Reference Guide are a little misleading, doesn't it?  Sigh... and I
" was already depressed enough by the fact the cross-platform, cross-browser
" support of CSS1 is standing at just above 12.5%...

IE4 supports "ex" to the extent that it's larger than a pixel and smaller than an em (and it doesn't blow up), but it ain't the real ex. Your charts are useful, and a noble endeavor, but it's real hard to say what works and what doesn't in two measly dimensions. So many obscure contextual variables at play. Yes, it is depressing.

Todd Fahrner

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