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Re: CSS1.0 Cleanup - magnification

From: Liam Quinn <liam@htmlhelp.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 23:29:51 -0400
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At 04:53 PM 25/08/97 -0700, David Perrell wrote:
>Liam Quinn <liam@htmlhelp.com>:
>> Why would an author be using presentational markup?  We're talking
>> CSS here, aren't we?  Even with presentational markup, I don't see
>> adjusting the magnification of a page would make it illegible to the 
>> reader.
>In my view CSS1 and element attributes are both markup.

Okay, sorry for the misunderstanding.  But CSS statements really don't 
mark anything up, so we might avoid future misunderstandings by referring 
to HTML as markup and CSS statements as at-rules, rulesets or whatever is 
appropriate in the context.

>I never wrote that adjusting the magnification of a page would make it
>illegible, rather that an arbitrary magnification of ALL the text on
>ALL pages would make SOME pages illegible, or at least badly missized
>from the author's intent.

I think there's too much emphasis on the "author's intent" here.  If the 
author intends a certain rigid appearance, he or she is likely to be 
disappointed on the Web.  An arbitrary magnification of content would 
allow better cascadability in both user and author style sheets, since all 
lengths could be adjusted in synch.

>If OPERA can do page magnification on a per-page basis, great, that's
>exactly what I suggested was the right thing to do. How does that
>relate to a CSS1 property that can be incorporated into a stylesheet?

Authors may wish to emphasize a certain section by increasing all lengths; 
increasing font-size is another option, but this would ignore things like 
border widths and margins that could be suitably increased along with the 
font-size.  Obviously this would not be ideal in some situations, but I 
can certainly see an advantage to having it as an option.

>Would a CSS1 text magnification property be useful? How so?

The font-size property already provides text magnification.  Or am I 
missing something here?

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