My question about the distinction between "deduction" and other forms of inference was posed to help me better understand the points you have been making about the utility of non-deductive inferences. From your response, I think that "deduction" is the process of finding a proof in some theory. Thus, "deductions" (deduced results) are precisely those that are proven to be true in some (accepted) proof theory. (And, maybe, for a proof theory to be acceptable, it must be sound with respect to some accepted model theory.) On this basis, I understand the further points you are making to be that there may be useful results (inferences) that cannot be proven. Which, I guess, takes us into issues of how dependable one needs results to be in order for them to be useful. Am I following your key points? (This leaves me wondering if it is not generally possible to turn any non-deduction into a deduction by strengthening the accompanying proof theory. Picking an example from another thread here: based on a given knowledge of airports, I might usefully infer, via NAF, that the closest to my current location is LHR, because I don't know of a closer one (and there's a general presumption that I know about airports close to my current location). This is not a provable deduction, but maybe it is made so by adding to the proof theory concerned an axiom to the effect that a given list of airports is complete.) #g -- At 15:58 01/12/03 -0500, Drew McDermott wrote: > [Graham Klyne] > Can you please point me at a resource that explains the precise > distinction > between "deduction" and other forms of inference? > >Consulting my agent undergraduate logic textbook (by Angelo Margaris, >published 1967), under "deduction" in the index we find a definition >of "a" deduction, namely, a series of formulas that are either >axioms or result from application of an inference rule from previous >formulas. Then one could say that "deduction" (the technique) is >whatever comes at the end of a "deduction" (the series of formulas). >But that's not terribly enlightening. > >A better definition comes by taking into account the semantics of >logical languages (found in another chapter). Anything that can be >deduced is true in all models of a theory (and, if the theory is >complete, vice versa). This is the reason that deduction is >conservative: if you can think of any interpretation of the given >facts, no matter how wild, in which the statements you start with are >true, then if P is false in that interpretation it cannot be deduced. >(Unless the statements you start with are inconsistent, in which case >there _are_ no interpretations that make them all true.) > >When one philosopher says "P is possible," and the other retorts that >it's "only logically possible," it's exactly this sense of possibility >they have in mind. Those who expect great things from deduction hope >to make many commonsense inferences logically necessary by supplying >the appropriate axioms. For instance, we'd like to infer that you >know your name. It may be physically impossible, or incredibly >unlikely, that you have forgotten your name, but it's not logically >impossible unless we supply an axiom that says "Everybody knows their >own name." Then we think of the possibility of Alzheimer's, and >realize that this is trickier than we thought. > >Techniques like probabilistic reasoning with Bayes nets can be thought >of as deductive or nondeductive, and it is easy to slip from one mode >to the other without realizing it. Let's assume that there is a >deductive theory in which a Bayes net and its boundary conditions can >be described, and the conclusions you arrive at are precisely those >licensed by the usual algorithms. (Actually expressing this theory is >probably harder than you think, but let that pass.) Now we will have >a theorem such as P("Klyne knows his name", 0.9999976). So far, >deduction. But if we slip to "Therefore, Klyne knows his name," we >have interpreted the conclusion nondeductively. > >Decision theorists can postpone the inevitable one step further by >having all _behavior_ depend only on expected utilities rather than >beliefs. I don't need to actually _believe_ that Klyne knows his >name; I just have to realize that if I want to answer the question >"Does Klyne have a middle name?" the action with the highest expected >utility is to send him an e-mail message with the question. One >problem is that to prove that an action has the highest expected >utility I have to be able to reason about all possible actions, not by >running through an explicit list, but somehow. Another problem is >that it is much more efficient to reason in terms of possibly wrong >beliefs than in terms of certain probabilities. In the present >example, I'd like to believe that after asking Klyne the question and >getting the answer I will then know whether he has a middle name. But >all I can conclude is that the conditional probability of "Klyne has a >middle name" given that he replies "No" is 0.001495. (It's much >higher than you'd expect because of the chance that he may conceal the >truth, not out of malice, but in order to spoil the example.) > > -- Drew > > >P.S. One might object that I can't really be certain about the >probabilities, not to very many significant digits. No, but you'll >almost certainly never be contradicted if you act as though these >numbers really are completely accurate. > > >-- > -- Drew McDermott > Yale University CS Dept. ------------ Graham Klyne For email: http://www.ninebynine.org/#ContactReceived on Wednesday, 3 December 2003 05:54:32 GMT
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