At 18:37 12.12.2002 +0000, Alexander Jerusalem wrote: >At 13:58 12.12.2002 +0000, Jon Hanna wrote: > >> > Kant and some particle physicists claim that >> > consciousness creates reality -- i.e., that >> > their mathematical models ARE reality, and >> > that experimental measurements are only >> > approximations of that reality. I say that >> > experimental measurements ARE reality, and >> > mathematical models are only approximations >> > of that reality. >> >>I prefer the idea of giving Kant, particle physicists, yourself and Ayn Rand >>the tools they need to express their differing opinions about reality and >>then let them battle it out rather than creating a tool out of a single view >>of reality. > >I'm not a philosopher myself, but I've had many discussions with some of >them about exactly this. And they argue (or rather some philosophical >systems do so) that you cannot have a strict separation of form and >content otherwise you would enter an infinite loop of meta layers. or an infinite recursion of the creation of new metalayers to be exact.Received on Thursday, 12 December 2002 13:43:10 GMT
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