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Re: Mozilla/HTML/RDF suggestion

From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 05:04:49 -0400 (EDT)
To: cay4@cornell.edu
cc: mozilla-editor@mozilla.org, www-rdf-comments@w3.org, mozilla-rdf@mozilla.org, www-rdf-interest@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0010180502470.13035-100000@tux.w3.org>
Trimmed lots of people's names since I know they read the lists and don't
need extra email.

In HTML, the element is called link. It has an attribute called rel, which
has some defined values, including "next", "previous", "contents", and so on.

If you have a decent browser you have these links exposed - try Lynx, or
iCab.

More information at http://www.w3.org/TR/html4

cheers

Charles McCN

On Wed, 18 Oct 2000 cay4@cornell.edu wrote:

  Dear James "the Blue-Sky dude" Hicks and RDF guys, (and project leaders 
  who probably don't want to be bothered with this stuff),
  
  I've had this idea in my head for a while now.  Just listen for a sec.
  
  Every time I'm at a page where sequential pages are viewed, --like some
  kind of slide show type thing, or multiple pages in an article-- there's
  always that link somewhere on the page that takes you to the next page or
  image or whatever in the sequence.  Anyway, it's a pain in the arse when
  that link is at the bottom of the page (or just below the bottom of your
  browser window) and you need to scroll down or go find that link and click
  on it before you can get to the next page. 
  
  What I suggest is an optional tag (invisible, maybe even a META tag?) that
  could be embedded into a web page with a link to the next and previous
  pages.  However, this optional HTML tag's "link" would actually be
  connected to a button in the browser interface itself or attached to a
  keyboard-shortcut.  The page creator would obviously put a conventional
  link to the next page so -older- browsers could get to the page with a
  click on a conventional link but implementers of my suggested standard
  could get to the next page multiple ways. 
  
  This way you could either just keep your mouse in the same location in
  your browser application (similar to the forward and backward buttons) and
  just click, click, click to skip the pages you don't want to read or to
  move through them quickly - or you could use a keyboard shortcut that
  would take your browser to the META_NEXT page.  This would keep the user
  from having to move the mouse all over the place just to get to the next
  page if the link lies below the bottom of the browser window or its
  location changes between pages due to lazy formatting. 
  
  Now granted, many pages DO have links to the next page at the top of the
  page that remain in the same place everytime, but I still think this would
  be an extremely useful feature (and easy to implement!).  The only
  problem would be that you would need two more buttons (actually 4 buttons
  would be good - <<Start <Back Forward> End>>).  These could "look" similar
  to the standard <Back Forward> buttons but their function would be
  dependent on the particular page you are viewing and NOT on the pages you
  have recently visited.  Hard links if you will.... or dynamic somehow if
  you wanted via CSS or some other newfangled web technology. 
  
  If you have ever seen one of those PowerPoint presentations people can
  publish to the web, that's the kind of interface I'm talking about...just
  move the buttons to the browser app itself instead of having images in the
  page link to the next page. 
  Example:http://salsa.cit.cornell.edu/cs213-fa00/Lectures/20000926/sld001.htm
  These are at the top, but wouldn't it be nice if you could have a 
  keyboard shortcut move you through this presentation?!
  
  Please feel free to give me credit wherever you can.  I'd appreciate it.  :)
  
  I'm also not setup for news:// to submit this to
  news://news.mozilla.org/netscape.public.mozilla.wishlist so I was
  wondering Blue-Sky dude if you might forward this to that list for me
  please... Thanks. 
  
  Feedback on whether this is viable technology or not would also be 
  interesting.  Ok, OK.... "Technology" is a stretch, but just reply real 
  quick (no, not reply-to-all?) and let me know what you think....
  
  Oh, and  "Have a Great Day!"
  
  Sincerely,
  Cyrus Yunker
  cay4@cornell.edu
  
  

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