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Issue timbl-03 Collection Clutter

From: Brian McBride <bwm@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:30:40 +0000
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To: Dave Beckett <dave.beckett@bristol.ac.uk>, Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>
Cc: www-rdf-comments@w3.org

At 10:52 26/03/2003 +0000, Dave Beckett wrote:

>Brian, please assign an issue ID for this LC comment on the syntax WD.

Tim,

Thanks for this comment that has been recorded as:

   http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/20030123-issues/#timbl-03

The RDFCore WG will consider this comment and respond in due course.

Brian


>Thanks
>
>Dave
>
> >>>Tim Berners-Lee said:
> > This comes with apologies as a late last call comment on the RDF syntax
> > document.
> > http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-syntax-grammar/#nodeElement
> >
> > I believe that in 7.2.19 Production parseTypeCollectionPropertyElt
> >   the wording
> >
> > """For each event nin s, the following statement is added to the graph:
> >
> > n.string-value <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type>
> > <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#List> .
> >
> >
> > """
> >
> > adds redundant triples to the graph.
> > I believe that waste of time and space at this level in the
> > architecture is unnecessary, and that that wording should be removed
> > (and any other reference to the adding type statements for Lists where
> > a rdf:first is there).
> >
> > It is trivial to restore the triples for anyone who wants them fro a
> > graph without them,
> > using
> > { ?x rdf:first ?y } =>  { ?x  a rdf:List }.
> >
> > Clutter at this level of the semantic web stack is very much of a
> > burden.
> >
> > I am sorry that I had never noticed that line before.
> > I have been using lists for a long time without generating those
> > redundant triples.
> >
> > Tim BL
> >
> > --Apple-Mail-55--539790636
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > Content-Type: text/enriched;
> >       charset=US-ASCII
> >
> > This comes with apologies as a late last call comment on the RDF
> > syntax document.
> >
> > http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-syntax-grammar/#nodeElement
> >
>
> > I believe that in <bold><fontfamily><param>Lucida Grande</param>7.2.19
> > Production parseTypeCollectionPropertyElt
> >
> > </fontfamily></bold> the wording
> >
> >
> > <fontfamily><param>Lucida Grande</param>"""For each event
> > </fontfamily><italic>n</italic><fontfamily><param>Lucida Grande</param>in
> > </fontfamily><italic>s</italic><fontfamily><param>Lucida Grande</param>,
> > the following statement is added to the graph:
> >
> >
> > 
> </fontfamily><italic><fontfamily><param>Courier</param>n</fontfamily></italic
> 
>  ><fontfamily><param>Courier</param>.<color><param>0000,0000,CCCC</param>str
>     ing-value
> > </color><<http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type>
> > <<http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#List> .
> >
> >
> >
> > """
> >
> >
> > adds redundant triples to the graph.
> >
> > I believe that waste of time and space at this level in the
> > architecture is unnecessary, and that that wording should be removed
> > (and any other reference to the adding type statements for Lists where
> > a rdf:first is there).
> >
> >
> > It is trivial to restore the triples for anyone who wants them fro a
> > graph without them,
> >
> > using
> >
> > { ?x rdf:first ?y } =>  { ?x  a rdf:List }.
> >
> >
> > Clutter at this level of the semantic web stack is very much of a
> > burden.
> >
> >
> > I am sorry that I had never noticed that line before.
> >
> > I have been using lists for a long time without generating those
> > redundant triples.
> >
> >
> > Tim BL
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