Re: [ANNOUNCE] QuiP: Software AG's XQuery Prototype

Jonathan,

Thanks for the speedy reply. It solved one of my basic problems. My problem 
was 3(b) in your list of suggestions.

QuipGui now runs, but gives bad command or filename errors before doing so. I 
have taken your advice and posted these issues on the support forum. However, 
as I mentioned in my previous email there were questions sitting on the 
support forum without a support response after five days. Perhaps I will be 
luckier.

I realise that I should probably not have begun to explore Quip late in the 
evening while my time was particularly pressurised. Somehow everything seems 
non-obvious when you are tired or busy. A tutorial or a *working* (or do I 
mean worked?) example would have been a huge help. And I suspect it would be 
for others who come new to Quip. Can I suggest you encourage colleagues to 
provide that?

Again, many thanks for your help. I will now take this off list.

Regards

Andrew Watt

In a message dated 12/07/01 01:43:30 GMT Daylight Time, 
Jonathan.Robie@SoftwareAG-USA.com writes:


> Hi Andrew,
> 
> Here's a quick checklist, which may be helpful to someone else, so I guess 
> I don't mind posting this here:
> 
> I assume you are running some 32-bit version of Windows.
> 
> 1. Do you have Java JVM 1.3 or higher installed?
> 2. Is java.exe on your path?
> 3. Does your version of Windows use .cmd files or .bat? If the latter, 
> rename the .cmd files to .bat files.
> 
> I have only installed this maybe 15 times, but on those occasions, these 
> were the only problems I encountered. Our support people who man the 
> developers forum are more knowledgeable than I am about any installation 
> issues.
> 
> If this doesn't work, please use the developer's forum that is linked from 
> the downloads page. If that does not work for you, please send me private 
> mail explaining why. I would like to avoid using public mailing lists for 
> tech support, though I am more than happy to answer general questions on 
> such lists when I happen to see them.
> 
> Hope this helps!
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> At 06:24 PM 7/11/2001 -0400, Svgdeveloper@aol.com wrote:
> >In a message dated 02/07/01 18:17:06 GMT Daylight Time,
> >Jonathan.Robie@SoftwareAG-USA.com writes:
> >
> >
> >>Software AG's QuiP is a prototype of XQuery, the W3C XML query language.
> >>QuiP can be used either with text-based XML files or for queries against a
> >>Tamino database. It may be downloaded for free from this location:
> >>
> >>http://www.softwareag.com/developer/downloads/default.htm
> >>
> >>This distribution is a good way to get a hands-on grasp of the XQuery
> >>language - it conforms to the 7 June 2001 draft of XQuery, and it includes
> >>a large number of sample queries and data files, syntax diagrams in the
> >>online help, and a GUI.
> >>
> >>There is also a developer forum that you can use to post comments on the
> >>prototype or on the XQuery language - follow the link from the downloads
> >>page.
> >
> >
> >Jonathan,
> >
> >It was probably a mistake on my part to attempt to install and run Quip 
> late
> >in the evening (UK time) after a long day. But I did.
> >
> >My basic problem is that I don't know where to start with Quip and there is
> >essentially nothing on the SoftwareAG Web site to get me started.
> >
> >The Readme.txt file in the download states: "Installation You have already
> >unpacked the file 'quip.zip'. That's all!". Not helpful when the program
> >won't run at all. The readme file dates from May and applies to version 
> 1.3.1
> >not 1.4.1 which is now available for download. There may not be a specific
> >problem related to versions but it doesn't inspire confidence.
> >
> >I visited the developer's forum on the Software AG site which links from 
> the
> >Quip download page only to see a question from someone else who had 
> obviously
> >decided to explore Quip and had had immediate problems sitting unanswered
> >after 5 days.
> >
> >There is, for example, nothing in the readme file to indicate which
> >platform(s) the download is supposed to run on. All versions of Windows? 
> Only
> >some? Wouldn't it have been useful to provide that basic information on the
> >download page? If Quip.exe runs for me, should I expect the GUI to run 
> too? I
> >don't know. It isn't stated.
> >
> >For me, the GUI doesn't run at all. I assume that is why none of the 
> promised
> >syntax diagrams are accessible.
> >
> >Quip.exe runs but gives no information at all about how the XQuery files 
> are
> >to be used in the command line syntax. Sometimes I am psychic and can work
> >these things out but not at 23:30, at least not today. :)
> >
> >I am posting these question on list partly for my own benefit and partly to
> >hopefully avoid later visitors to the list archives having a similar
> >frustrating experience.
> >
> >I am looking forward to exploring Quip but it would be nice to have some
> >assistance in getting started. If these questions shouldn't have been
> >directed to you can you please give me an email address of someone who can
> >give me (and presumably others who want to explore Quip) some assistance in
> >getting past the first hurdle?
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Andrew Watt
>