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DRAFT Minutes of QA WG Telcon Monday 24 May 2004

From: Andrew Thackrah <a.thackrah@opengroup.org>
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 14:05:31 -0400 (EDT)
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DRAFT minutes

QA Working Group Teleconference
Monday, 24-May-2004
Scribe: Andrew

(PC) Patrick Curran (Sun Microsystems)
  DD) Dimitris Dimitriadis (Ontologicon)
(KD) Karl Dubost (W3C, WG co-chair)
(LR) Lynne Rosenthal (NIST - IG co-chair)
(MS) Mark Skall (NIST)
(AT) Andrew Thackrah (Open Group)

(SM) Sandra Martinez (NIST)
(LH) Lofton Henderson (CGMO - WG co-chair)
(DH) Dominique HazaŽl-Massieux (W3C)

(MC) Martin Chamberlain (Microsoft)
(VV) Vanitha Venkatraman (Sun Microsystems)

(DM) David Marston (IBM)


Previous Telcon Minutes:

No new Action items.


1.) Roll call (see above)


- June f2f
2x Check for attendance to next f2f

- Report from WWW2004 conference.

  KD thanks DM for panel/presentation.

Something about Boeing?? [@@ Karl - please can you fill this - I missed 
of this discussion]

DM: advisory board on Tue. made some headway on licensing issue. There 
is a
report - one slide shows a proposal
concerning IP of test cases.

LR: It was very short mention + some discussion

MS: I was disappointed by the number of people who showed up & most 
were W3C
I think we agree that this material has wider applicability

KD: I agree. Even so it was good.

MS: The schedule was a problem. Room was hard to find. Need to be 
about accessibility
DM: Agree

3.) TestGL status report

  [ Presented by Dimitris ]

DD Is to take ownership of TestGL - this was decided at an informal 
last week (in place of
the normal telcon) [1]. The latest edition of the document that DD will 
working from is the 25
February 2004 draft [2].

DD explained his plans for each of the sections in turn. Due to the 
time and effort
available some sections will remain unchanged in the next draft, others 
be changed

In the next release:

  Section 2.1 will stay the same. The subsequent draft will expand on 
the six
types of testing that
  have been identified.

  2.2 Development Strategies - there is no time to develop this until 
the next

  2.3 Test Assertions - This must be synchronized with the SpecGL draft 
there is significant
  overlap here.

  GL 1 Testing Strategies - The 3 checkpoints will be extended , mainly 
Discussion sections.

  GL 2 Testable Assertions - Work on this is postponed until the next 
(dependency with SpecGL is

  GL 3 Metadata - this material will be expanded.

  GL 4 Execution Process - This will not be worked on until the next 

  GL 6 - Reporting Mechanisms - This will not be worked on until the next

  So of the 8 sections, DD can work on 4: 2.1, 3.1, 3.3 and 3.5.

  DD asked for feedback on this work.

  LR explained how she worked on SpecGL - asking a few people to look at
specific sections e.g.
  KD reviewed at examples, LH wrote some parts. Suggests DD adopts a 

  DD plans to release a new draft on Friday (28 May 2004). Ideally he 
like QAWG to read through
  it and send comments for the following Monday.

  KD thought that synchronisation of the TestGL and SpecGL would be 
possible in
the time available.

  LR pointed out that document synch. is not too important at this stage 
that we can leave it
  until later.

  4. AOB )

  - Next Telecon.

  KD suggested that we reschedule the next telcon to Wednesday 2 June to 
a public holiday
  on Monday 31 May in USA (and UK too).

  - SpecGL status

  LR plans to complete the current work on SpecGL by Wednesday this week 
May 2004)

  - October f2f

  AT confirmed that The Open Group are happy to host the October meeting 
Reading, UK

  MS requested that the final week of October be chosen: e.g. 25 - 29 
  No one else mentioned any other constraints so we will aim for that 
week if
  [ LH already sent AT his constraints by email - they don't clash with 
Oct ]

  At the June f2f there will be a discussion on who else could be 
invited to
the October f2f. Maybe
  some UK/EU contacts - especially if we can get a specific agenda.

  Meeting adjourned 11:40 EDT

  [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-qa-wg/2004May/0034.html

  [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-qaframe-test-20040225/
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