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Re: Draft Minutes QAWG Teleconference: 22 December 2004

From: Lynne Rosenthal <lynne.rosenthal@nist.gov>
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:53:27 -0500
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To: Dimitris Dimitriadis <dimitris@ontologicon.com>
Cc: www-qa-wg@w3.org

Apologies.  Zakim was having trouble connecting people.  In particular, 
Karl couldn't get in (until 30 minutes late) and he would have been the 
only one that could tie you in.


At 01:55 PM 12/22/2004, Dimitris Dimitriadis wrote:

>A quick remark; I wasn't called in as I usually am, so I suspected the
>telcon had been called off.
>On 22 Dec 2004, at 19:04, Lynne Rosenthal wrote:
>  Comments and corrections welcome:
>  QA Working Group Teleconference
>  Wednesday, 21 December 2004
>  Scribe: Lynne
>  Attendees:
>(TB) Tim Boland (NIST)
>(PC) Patrick Curran (Sun Microsystems)
>  (KD) Karl Dubost (W3C, Chair)
>  (LH) Lofton Henderson (CGMO)
>  (LR) Lynne Rosenthal (NIST)
>  (MS) Mark Skall (NIST)
>  (DM) David Marston (IBM)
>  Regrets:
>  (DH) Dominique HazaŽl-Massieux (W3C)
>  Absent:
>  (DD) Dimitris Dimitriadis (Ontologicon)
>  (RK) Richard Kennedy (Boeing)
>  Summary of New Action Items:
>  AI-20041221-01:
>  AI-20041221-02:
>  AI-20041221-03:
>  Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-qa-wg/2004Dec/0047.html
>  Previous Telcon Minutes:
>  Minutes:
>  1) Roll call
>  2) Routine Business
>  Next teleconferences:
>              29 Dec ≠ cancelled.
>              5 Jan ≠ discuss implementation report status and results
>              12 Jan ≠ Topic open
>              19 Jan ≠ cancelled
>              26 Jan ≠ review of SpecGL issues (Last Call ends 28 Jan)
>  Tech Plenary ≠ registration open.
>  3. Versioning (Lynne and Karl lead)
>  Should we address versioning?  Agreed that we will not include
>versioning in current version of SpecGL. However, we should address it
>and can start working on it now. It can be included in either future
>SpecGL, working papers and/or Wiki.  There is overlap with the TAG ≠
>will need to distinguish what would be our value added in addressing
>  Discussion: David is in favor of exploring versioning and including
>more in a future SpecGL.  It is type of DOV.  Since we already have
>deprecation, we already have touched a bit on versioning [1].  Lynne
>agrees that it is a good next topic for the WG and wants to make sure
>there is value added between what we do and what the TAG addresses.
>Karl gave background and also, via examples (CSS) showed how this is a
>real problem that needs to be addressed.  It makes sense to address the
>ability of a spec to move forward and have next version and how do you
>organize the technology.  How do you put versioning into a document
>that doesn’t have versioning (e.g., CSS) For example, the  parser
>doesn’t know which version of CSS it is using ≠ no clear indicator.
>  Overlap with the TAG.  Spec should address how to handle versioning.
>Not understand how this is applicable to all specifications, e.g., WCAG
>≠ how does it apply when looking at content.  Understand how this
>applies to markup language.  May not apply to every type of
>  4. FAQ: Test Document. (Patrick lead)
>  New draft FAQ circulated [3].  Patrick reviewed document, pointing out
>differences between this version and the previous version, as well as
>reviewing the last several questions.  Continue working on document
>which will eventually be published in QA space.
>  Discussion: Ways to indicate progress ≠ some groups use A+, but have
>abandoned this.  Another way is to indicate the absolute number of
>tests.  You are either conforming or you are not.  Only way to explain
>this well, is to open the question of certification. Patrick will add
>an additional question on branding.  There are W3C icons ≠ the right to
>put an icon on a web page. Self-certification.
>  Where we go with this? Is this the right level of detail?  Need more
>examples, e.g., here is an example of a WG that has done this, point to
>templates, other existing tools.  Will be published in QA space.
>  5. Adjourn.
>  Happy Holidays and a Merry New Year!
>  [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-qa-wg/2004Dec/0035.html
>  [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-qa-wg/2004Dec/0042.html
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