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Re: Test Task Force Charter comments

From: Dimitris Dimitriadis <dimitris@ontologicon.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 21:07:40 +0100
Cc: www-qa-wg@w3.org
To: Lynne Rosenthal <lynne.rosenthal@nist.gov>
Message-Id: <FE448AF6-2D7B-11D7-A1C3-000393556882@ontologicon.com>
OK, I'll incorporate changes suggested in the next draft, which I'll  
send soon (today or tomorrow) to the WG list

/Dimitris

On Monday, January 20, 2003, at 04:28  PM, Lynne Rosenthal wrote:

> Dimitris
>
> Some suggested changes on the TTF Charter.  
>
> For Mission I suggest the following reword:
> The mission of the QA WG Test Task Force (TTF) is to ensure that  
> guidelines in the QA test guidelines documents are put into practice  
> by W3C Working Groups.
>
> For Scope, I suggest the following reword and additions.
> The TTF scope is to:
> ·       Ensure the use of practices required by the QAWG Guideline  
> documents.
> ·       Provide technical expertise to assist and support W3C Working  
> Groups in providing Test Materials for their specifications.
> ·       Find tools that implement the QAWG Guideline techniques and  
> where there are none, prototype or participate in the development of a  
> tool.
>
> In addition, the TTF produces in association with others or on its  
> own, Test Frameworks to ensure that test materials produced in the W3C  
> Working Groups can be used, where applicable, by others.
>
> -Lynne
>
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> All,
>
> Attached please find the new version of the TTF charter, in time for  
> AC contacts, as requested earlier this week.
>
> All minuted changes from the F2F were incorporated (except for the  
> part on templates of test materials, which I cannot remember having  
> either voted for or abstained from voting on during the F2F according  
> to an earlier email to the list).
>
> For the archives, I again want to stress that I do not agree that we  
> should strive for not enforcing that test techniques as defined and  
> discussed in other QA WG materials be used. Our current wording (on  
> which we reached consensus during the F2F) is "ensure". I cannot, on  
> the one hand, understand what makes "ensure" different from "enforce",  
> except if "ensure" means that we just check for something having been  
> done by someone else (which means that in order to ensure, someone  
> needs to have enforced, except for cases where all gets done  
> voloutarily); on the other I think this is merely words and that it  
> does not really make that big a difference.
>
> Again, I updated the draft as per the minutes, but I want it archived  
> that I do not agree with this weaker wording. Some group needs to  
> enforce that things be done, if not this group then some other.  
> However, as this is my personal view and not that of the QA WG, the  
> TTF charter does not reflect that.
>
> As for AI-20030108-2, assuring uniformity means, as mentioned in the  
> updated draft, that QA WG "approved" test techniques as per our  
> documents are used as much as possible (the set of those tools  
> defining uniform use).
>
> Olivier, please update the action items list accordingly.
>
> /Dimitris
>
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