RE: CC/PP vocabularies for devices

IMHO (having worked on the WAP vocabulary as well on the CC/PP effort), it
is not sufficient to simply create a new vocabulary or a schema and have it
published. One would need to ensure that content providers are leveraging
that information in generating customized content. For proprietary tags that
a vendor would create, this would probably imply a marketing effort that
would involve making the content providers aware about the existence of such
tags/ schemas.
 
FYI, there has been some informal discussion in the CC/PP and DI groups
regarding the creation of a generic vocabulary for other devices. Perhaps
something will materialize in the near future.
 
Lalitha

-----Original Message-----
From: Johan Hjelm [mailto:johan.hjelm@era-t.ericsson.se]
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 4:36 AM
To: olivier.rovellotti@3tl.com; www-mobile@w3.org
Subject: Re: CC/PP vocabularies for devices


No, you have to publish it in RDF schema form at a URI. Just like any RDF
Schema. 

I am not sure about the status of the various schema editors there are, go
to http://www.w3.org/RDF/ <http://www.w3.org/RDF/>  where I think there is a
listing. You can also find more information about how to build schemas and
use RDF there. Better read up on namespaces, as well... 


Johan 


Olivier Rovellotti wrote: 


 Hi all,I'd be intersted in creating my own UAProf as well, is there any
tool out there to build RDF Schema ?I think the standrad as it is now is
missing some sort of supported/unsupported tags information can I just go
ahead and add it to my own spec.ThanksOlivier  

-----Original Message----- 
From: www-mobile-request@w3.org [ mailto:www-mobile-request@w3.org
<mailto:www-mobile-request@w3.org> ]On Behalf Of Johan Hjelm 
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 3:12 AM 
To: cafe babe 
Cc: www-mobile@w3.org 
Subject: Re: CC/PP vocabularies for devices 
 
Since the descriptions are defined by the device manufacturers, and since
there is no registration procedure for profiles, we don't know. I have not
heard about anyone, though. 

Note that if you want to, you can construct your own description of a device
(for instance using pieces from the UAPROF schema, as long as you follow the
CC/PP specifications). You can also invent your own elements. All that is
required is that you make the schema available at a persistent URI (i.e. it
does not go away for some periodof time). 


Or you might want to prod the manufacturers of PDA:s. There are several
which use Linux now, they ought to be interested in diversifying themselves.



Johan 


cafe babe wrote: 


  

Hello, 


Thanks for the prompt reply. Do CC/PP vocabulary descriptions exist only for
devices conforming to the WAP specification? Are there any descriptions for
devices that might not be conforming to WAP. 


thanks 
 >From: Johan Hjelm  
>To: cafe babe  
>CC: www-mobile@w3.org 
>Subject: Re: CC/PP vocabularies for devices 
>Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 10:50:42 +0900 
> 
>Hi "cafe babe" (I'm for a latte on Copacabana myself); 
>the WAP Forum UAPROF group has developed such a description. It contains 
>generic descriptions of devices which conform to the WAP specifications, 
>which with WAP 2.0 includes XHTML, CSS etc. You can find it on 
> http://www.wapforum.org/what/technical.htm
<http://www.wapforum.org/what/technical.htm> . 
> 
>I think some manufacturers (Ericsson is one) have implemented CC/PP in 
>their mobile phones, but I am actually not sure about where you can 
>access the URI for the schema. 
> 
>Johan 
> 
>cafe babe wrote: 
> 
> > Hello,I am trying to implement the CC/PP extension mechanism to 
> > distinguish between various internet capable client devices & their 
> > capabilities/preferences so as to serve customised content to these 
> > clients.Is there a generic vocabulary of Capabilities/Preferences 
> > defined for different kinds of devices like cell phones,PDA etc. Where 
> > can I find these vocabulary definitions. Thanks in advance 
> > 
> > 
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