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RE: CHTML browser simulators??

From: Josh Cohen <joshco@Exchange.Microsoft.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:26:20 -0800
Message-ID: <726A4C58DBA56E409F3D3563A8BF953C2C0A65@airstream-corp.platinum.corp.microsoft.com>
To: "'Andrew Scott'" <a.scott@trl.telstra.com.au>, "Martin J. Duerst" <duerst@w3.org>
Cc: Lanka Ravikumar <ravikumar.lanka@wipro.com>, mobile <www-mobile@w3.org>
I would suggest that you contact someone at NTT Docomo.
(No, I dont have a contact handy :)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Scott [mailto:a.scott@trl.telstra.com.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 10:16 AM
> To: Martin J. Duerst
> Cc: Lanka Ravikumar; mobile
> Subject: Re: CHTML browser simulators??
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2000 at 02:45:48PM +0900, Martin J. Duerst wrote:
> > At 09:24 00/03/10 +0530, Lanka Ravikumar wrote:
> > > Hello, 
> > > 
> > > Does anyone know if simulators for CHTML browsers are available? 
> > 
> > Well, what exactly do you want?
> > 
> > If you mean Compact HTML as submitted to the W3C, you can
> > run an HTML doc againts its DTD, and then view it on any
> > browser. You can set the font and make the browser window
> > smaller to get a better impression of what the phone user
> > may see.
> 
> This may be a vague simulation, but surely not a realistic
> representation. You may as well say that as MS Internet Explorer and 
> Netscape Navigator are just HTML browsers, you can know what 
> something 
> will look like in one by displaying it in the other.
> 
> The current batch of WAP phones don't support windowing and each 
> UI element tends to take up the entire screen. For instance, 
> what would
> be a drop down list box in Internet Explorer could be a screen filled
> with an enumerated list in a WAP phone. This is nothing to do with
> markup, but everything to do with the phone environment (no rich GUI
> toolbox that can be called, limited input available eg. no 
> mouse, limited
> memory available to software).
> 
> It is a very reasonable request to ask if a simulator of a CHTML phone
> is available, as an HTML browser would perform a rather poor 
> job of this.
> 
> > > By simulator, I mean something like UP phone simulator for CHTML. 
> > 
> > The good thing about things based on HTML is that you don't
> > need any simulators, you can use the real stuff.
> >
> > Regards,   Martin.
> 
> Andrew Scott .................... 
http://purl.oclc.org/net/andrewscott/
Telstra Research Labs, Melbourne ......................................
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