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Re: Fw: [Moderator Action] Re: WAP Competitors ?

From: Johan Hjelm <hjelm@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 09:12:10 -0500
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To: Takuya ASADA <asada@w3.org>
Cc: www-mobile@w3.org
If it uses HDML, it is *not* a WAP service. 


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>Hi Sandeep, hi all,
>> Actually I had a feeling that NTT's services might be a WAP competitor....
>at least in Japan this is more than true since NTT Docomo's i-mode 
>is *much* more popular than the wap service of the main competitor 
>cdmaone (which uses hdml and not wml by the way). according to 
>japanese magazines however there will probably be a merge between 
>wap and i-mode in the future. 
>What I read so far is that both NTT and CdmaOne are trying to find 
>a joined aggreement and want to create a standard combining the 
>advantages of both systems in cooperation with the W3C. I also 
>read that future i-mode mobile phones will be wap compliant (=can 
>access wap pages).
>Besides wap and i-mode at least in Japan there is one more 
>quite new service called skyweb which has been developed by 
>J-Phone (http://www.j-phone.com). The service uses mml (mobile 
>markup language). Unfortunately I could not found any specs 
>about it until now but this short note in Japanese:
>http://www.fromtokyo.com/i-con/mml.htm, which says that you can 
>use pages made for i-mode also for MML based skyweb. 
>MML also seems to be not yet submitted to the W3C...
>> Has W3C collaborated with NTT on the development of WAP or any
>> recommendations ?? Is C-HTML something the W3C is looking into ??
>well, C-HTML was at least submitted to the W3C as a note:
>I would be very happy to hear any news and hints about 
>this topic since I started recently developing a phone 
>based internet service in Japan and would like to learn 
>as much as possible in this new area. I will also try to 
>answer any questions of other people here to my best 
>Since this is my first mail here I hope that this is also 
>ok as my introduction to the list. I am still very new to 
>the mobile world so please excuse if I maybe wrongfully 
>mixed some terms and standards.
>If you are interested, I would also like to publish the 
>URL of our new mobile phone service here as soon as the 
>prototype has passed the alpha-status.
>Andrea Hoffmann
>Andrea Hoffmann - Webmaster & Product Development
>webmaster@girigiri.co.jp -- http://girigiri.co.jp
>Phone:  +81-3-5731-6270  --  Fax: +81-3-5731-6272

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Received on Tuesday, 7 March 2000 09:14:28 UTC

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