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HTML5 @ W3C

From: <rbs@maths.uq.edu.au>
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 07:34:48 +1000
Message-ID: <20061029073448.ir4vph40g80ggw8g@webmail.maths.uq.edu.au>
To: dev-tech-mathml@lists.mozilla.org
Cc: dev-tech-layout@lists.mozilla.org, www-math@w3.org

It is now official. HTML5 is going at W3C (although it isn't called  
HTML5 -- at as least as yet).

The noises have built into a rumble, to the point of reaching the man  
himself, Sir Tim BL, if we have to name him:
http://dig.csail.mit.edu/breadcrumbs/node/166

"Some things are clearer with hindsight of several years. It is  
necessary to evolve HTML incrementally. The attempt to get the world  
to switch to XML, including quotes around attribute values and slashes  
in empty tags and namespaces all at once didn't work."

Juan & The While Lynx: the quote above is not from hixie or me, culled  
from the MathML-in-HTLM5 thread. It is a quote from the man himself.  
Perhaps it has to come from him before it sinks in. [Note: as I have  
been saying, there is difference between the client and the server.  
XML is great for the server and any workflow there. But it is not as  
critical on the client.]

Needless to say, not everybody agrees with the move, as evidenced by  
the thread as /.:
http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/06/10/28/131246.shtml

Anyway, all I can add as far as MathML is concerned is that whatever  
new WGs the W3C ends up with, MathML should become part of the next  
HTML, period. Let's make a block behind this, and not fragment  
ourselves any further with wishful thinking and the illusion that  
MathML is fine in the icy isolation of XHTML/XML.

Although TBL's post only gives a little accolade to the WHATWG --  
understandably because it is a breakaway/rebel group :-) the aspects  
he mentioned (e.g., webforms) are central to the WHATWG's HTLM5. Math  
rendering should not miss out this time. Pretexts are over, as we now  
have credible things to put on the table.
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RBS

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