From: Paul Topping <pault@dessci.com>

Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 14:12:17 -0700

Message-ID: <D1EFB337111B674B8F1BE155B01C6DD601463474@franklin.corp.dessci>

To: "William F Hammond" <hammond@csc.albany.edu>, <dev-tech-mathml@lists.mozilla.org>, <www-math@w3.org>

Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 14:12:17 -0700

Message-ID: <D1EFB337111B674B8F1BE155B01C6DD601463474@franklin.corp.dessci>

To: "William F Hammond" <hammond@csc.albany.edu>, <dev-tech-mathml@lists.mozilla.org>, <www-math@w3.org>

MathML is just not an authoring language but a computer representation. Because MathML is based on XML and is by definition constrained by its structure, it is is and always will be a poor authoring language. While there's no reason to deliberately make MathML wordy or difficult to type, its main value is in its ability to represent math notation in a precise way. Any introduction of ease-of-authoring features will likely weaken it as a representation. Paul Topping > -----Original Message----- > From: William F Hammond [mailto:hammond@csc.albany.edu] > Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 1:40 PM > To: dev-tech-mathml@lists.mozilla.org; www-math@w3.org > Subject: Re: The problems with namespaces in text/html > > "Paul Topping" <pault@dessci.com> writes: > > > I second these concerns. MathML already contains markup for > > hyperlinks, spacing, and bolding. > > The topic here is small bits of commenting text inside math, > wrapped in an <mtext> container. > > <mtext> is a tiny scratchpad for authors (like \text{} inside > \displaymath{} in LaTeX), and if we want authors to join us, > a few features will need to be there for them. > > Spacing is not the issue. There is no way I know either to > emphasize or to bold part of it. (I suppose one could use > multiple <mtext> containers with appropriate CSS clues, but > that would be silly since the reasons for MathML granularity > don't apply inside <mtext>.) > > It's true, as Distler said, that there is provision for an > xlinked mrow with attributes using XML namespace ':' > notation, but that will not fit in an Appendix C profile for > math in HTML5. In fact, I do not see it currently working > inside <math> in any user agent other than Mozilla. And I do > not see it in the W3C Test Suite, > http://www.w3.org/Math/testsuite/ . Have I missed something? > > > Nesting languages such as HTML inside MathML inside HTML sounds > > desirable, ... > > I'm not in favor of non-math content anywhere recursively inside math. > > What I'm suggested is _taking_ _over_ the 4 names "a", "b" > (or "strong"), "em", and "a" when used in "mtext". That will > allow us to control what happens. > > -- Bill > >Received on Monday, 9 October 2006 21:12:30 GMT

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