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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
14 Apr 2016
[2]Agenda
[2]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2016Apr/0025.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-i18n-irc
Attendees
Present
Addison, r12a, Felix, JcK
Regrets
David
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
Addison Phillips
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Agenda
2. [6]Action Items
3. [7]Info Share
4. [8]RADAR and Active Work Review
5. [9]Unicode-XML placeholder text and publication
6. [10]Ruby Markup (internal review discussion)
7. [11]<q> element
8. [12]CharMod
9. [13]AOB?
* [14]Summary of Action Items
* [15]Summary of Resolutions
__________________________________________________________
Action Items
action-174?
<trackbot> action-174 -- Addison Phillips to Write article
about floating times in HTML -- due 2013-01-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[16]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/174
[16] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/174
[17]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/questions/qa-floating-time
s.en.html
[17]
http://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/questions/qa-floating-times.en.html
<r12a>
[18]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open?sort=ow
ner
[18] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open?sort=owner
action-505?
<trackbot> action-505 -- Addison Phillips to Prepare updated
unicode-xml disclaimer text for publication as a placeholding
wg note while martin et al get started working on updates --
due 2016-04-07 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[19]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/505
[19] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/505
close action-505
<trackbot> Closed action-505.
close action-506
<trackbot> Closed action-506.
Info Share
<fsasaki>
[20]https://www.gala-global.org/ondemand/live-webinar-framework
-multilingual-and-semantic-enrichment-digital-content-new-l10n#
sthash.71Yj67ln.dpbs
[20]
https://www.gala-global.org/ondemand/live-webinar-framework-multilingual-and-semantic-enrichment-digital-content-new-l10n#sthash.71Yj67ln.dpbs
Felix: make you aware of a GALA webinar
... abstract doesn't talk about standards, but talking about
ITS and various standards, community standards, CGs
... open to non-GALA members
... 28 April, if available please join
<fsasaki>
[21]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-annotation/2016
Apr/0040.html
[21]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-annotation/2016Apr/0040.html
felix: text processing, using ITS to do that
... don't want to store HTML but web annotations
... just submitted, see what their reaction is
RADAR and Active Work Review
[22]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/radar/
[22] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/radar/
[23]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/
[23] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/
richard: asked felix to provide some info from "his neck of the
woods"
... the CGs listed are not under the I18N activity
... but would be something we would follow
... there's another under previous column (bpmlod)
... felix, are there high level milestones??
... for bpmlod or the other CGs?
felix: can add them
richard: keep high level, maybe 2 or 3
addison: different color or something for non-WG/IG stuff?
felix: some of these are developing technologies, others doing
best practices
... suggest to put under these items
... not under i18n
richard: scroll down and you see track industry is a horizontal
... list CGs in a similar manner?
... are we publishing bpmlod eventually?
felix: we announce and such
... in the blog
... could be
richard: would keep bpmlod where it is now
felix: update is processing web annotation
... way to store ITS as linked data
... being developed as a best practice
... put the link in (earlier)
... can do term annotations
... term data category
... currently on implementation side
Unicode-XML placeholder text and publication
richard: martin has closed one issue
addison: should we publish updated unicode-xml updated Note
with the placeholder text on UTR status?
<fsasaki> +1
+1
<r12a> +1
<JcK> To the extent to which I understand the current piece of
the issue, +1
so resolved
richard: check with martin to get a clear response on the
disclaimer from him
... may need me to do this to do echidna
addison: *just* do WDs in github??
<scribe> ACTION: richard: double check handling of note status
for unicode-xml while we work on it [recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[24] http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-507 - Double check handling of note
status for unicode-xml while we work on it [on Richard Ishida -
due 2016-04-21].
<scribe> ACTION: richard: publish updated unicode-xml Note
based on results of action-507 [recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
[25] http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-508 - Publish updated unicode-xml
note based on results of action-507 [on Richard Ishida - due
2016-04-21].
Ruby Markup (internal review discussion)
<r12a>
[26]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/ruby/markup.en.ht
ml
[26] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/ruby/markup.en.html
[27]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2016A
prJun/0003.html Ruby Markup
[28]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/ruby/markup.en.ht
ml
[27]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2016AprJun/0003.html
[28] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/ruby/markup.en.html
richard: go to wide review?
<scribe> ACTION: addison: remind WG members to definitely read
ruby/markup.en.html for next week [recorded in
[29]http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
[29] http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-509 - Remind wg members to definitely
read ruby/markup.en.html for next week [on Addison Phillips -
due 2016-04-21].
richard: just to add to that, refrehsed tests for ruby
... both htnml and css
... ported test script to js only
... no php
... just finished, a few small changes in the page
... updated the results
... some changes
addison: positive changes?
richard: yes, but not far enough
... added canary and webkit
<q> element
richard: various people made useful suggestions
addison: mostly that the outer document language should
control?
richard: there is a problem with that
... been working on testing
... look first to see if borwser puts quotes
... then if they follow the language specific qutation marks
... FF does not
... chrome does what HTML/CLDR say
... third set and probably need to fourth set
... do browsers use the outside language or not?
... FF does, but only because it doesn't pay attention
... one thing that came to light things we've looked at so far
it makes sense to use outer language
... if you have words "one" "two" and "three"
and you put lang=en at beginning of para
scribe: then have spans with lang=ja
<p> one <span lang=ja>two</span> <q lang=ja>three</q></p>
<r12a> <p lang=en>one <span>two <q lang=ja>three</q></span></p>
<r12a> <p lang=en>one <span lang=ja>two <q>three</q></span></p>
richard: this last one
... if apply "lang out side outer q", then japanese quotes
addison: containing block element? but seems problematic
... it's only a problem when languages are mixed
jck: would be far too problematic to understand if very complex
addison: two possibilities
jck: could be counter-intuitive
richard: lang on q is the language *of the contents*
... but the quotes belong to the *surrounding* text
addison: also they wanted q-transitivity, q within a q would
use same quotes
richard: upshot
... 1. need an element that explains how it works and how to
style them
... 2. tell HTML the default behaviour isn't quite right
... 3. tell CSS also
... next steps are to finish off tests
... go back to e-books and here's this one bit that doesn't
work well and propose to do nothing about it
<scribe> ACTION: richard: write a wiki page on <q> element
proposal using extracts from the email discussion [recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-i18n-minutes.html#action04]
[30] http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-i18n-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-510 - Write a wiki page on <q>
element proposal using extracts from the email discussion [on
Richard Ishida - due 2016-04-21].
CharMod
AOB?
<scribe> ScribeNick: aphillip
<scribe> Scribe: Addison Phillips
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: addison: remind WG members to definitely read
ruby/markup.en.html for next week [recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: richard: double check handling of note status for
unicode-xml while we work on it [recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: richard: publish updated unicode-xml Note based
on results of action-507 [recorded in
[33]http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: richard: write a wiki page on <q> element
proposal using extracts from the email discussion [recorded in
[34]http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-i18n-minutes.html#action04]
[31] http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-i18n-minutes.html#action03
[32] http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-i18n-minutes.html#action01
[33] http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-i18n-minutes.html#action02
[34] http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-i18n-minutes.html#action04
Summary of Resolutions
[End of minutes]
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