- From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:06:39 +0000
- To: www International <www-international@w3.org>
http://www.w3.org/2013/01/09-i18n-minutes.html
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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
09 Jan 2013
[2]Agenda
[2]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2013Jan/0014.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2013/01/09-i18n-irc
Attendees
Present
Addison, Richard, Mati, Koji, Felix
Regrets
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
Addison Phillips
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Agenda and Minutes
2. [6]Action Items
3. [7]Info Share
4. [8]Pending reviews received over break
5. [9]KLReq
6. [10]ITS v2 review
7. [11]Case Sensitivity in CSS
8. [12]AOB?
* [13]Summary of Action Items
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<r12a>
[14]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2013J
anMar/0018.html
[14]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2013JanMar/0018.html
Agenda and Minutes
Action Items
close ACTION-164
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-164 Create blog entry showing our case
for css caselessness.
close ACTION-168
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-168 Remind everyone to read ITS 2.0
for the 9th.
Info Share
addison: KLReq document received
... temporary link to follow
<r12a>
[15]http://rishida.net/temp/HangulTextLayout_20130102.pdf
[15] http://rishida.net/temp/HangulTextLayout_20130102.pdf
Pending reviews received over break
[16]http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/WD-css-text-decor-3-20130103/
[16] http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/WD-css-text-decor-3-20130103/
CSS3: Text-decoration
due by the 31st
<scribe> ACTION: addison: remind everyone to comment on
css3-text-decoration by next week [recorded in
[17]http://www.w3.org/2013/01/09-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-169 - Remind everyone to comment on
css3-text-decoration by next week [on Addison Phillips - due
2013-01-16].
KLReq
[18]http://rishida.net/temp/HangulTextLayout_20130102.pdf
[18] http://rishida.net/temp/HangulTextLayout_20130102.pdf
addison: above is temporary link
richard: scanned it
... looks pretty good
... not as detailed as the Japanese one
... good for a first version
... we need to send for review and then get feedback
incorporated
... think it might need some extra small details
... such as wrapping rules (when, what context)... just example
... needs English editing
addison: also need to publish Korean version
richard: need formal sign-off on publication through w3c
... talked to domain lead
... should invited editors to join IG as IE
... create IG-task-force
... and use public-cjk list as their feedback list
... suggest we convert to polyglot
<scribe> ACTION: addison: coordinate with richard regarding
KLReq [recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2013/01/09-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-170 - Coordinate with richard
regarding KLReq [on Addison Phillips - due 2013-01-16].
ITS v2 review
[20]http://tinyurl.com/its20-comments-handling
[20] http://tinyurl.com/its20-comments-handling
<scribe> chair: IMPORTANT to read by next week
UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: for call of the 16th
felix: send comments before next week
addison: will create item in tracker
... please follow WG process for creating comments
<r12a>
[21]http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/review-instructions
[21] http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/review-instructions
Case Sensitivity in CSS
[22]http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/CaseForCaselessCSS
[22] http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/CaseForCaselessCSS
[23]http://www.inter-locale.com/test/css-case-sensitive-demo1.h
tml
[23] http://www.inter-locale.com/test/css-case-sensitive-demo1.html
[24]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2013J
an/0003.html
[24]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2013Jan/0003.html
[25]http://www.w3.org/blog/CSS/2007/12/12/case_sensitivity/
[25] http://www.w3.org/blog/CSS/2007/12/12/case_sensitivity/
[26]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2013J
anMar/0018.html
[26]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2013JanMar/0018.html
[27]http://www.w3.org/International/tests/html-css/generate?tes
t=case-conversion-001
[27]
http://www.w3.org/International/tests/html-css/generate?test=case-conversion-001
<r12a>
[28]http://www.w3.org/International/tests/html-css/generate?tes
t=case-conversion-001
[28]
http://www.w3.org/International/tests/html-css/generate?test=case-conversion-001
<r12a>
[29]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2012Dec/0089.
html
[29] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2012Dec/0089.html
case sensitivity: we're okay with that
ACI for ASCII-restricted namespaces: okay
for user identiifers that are case *IN*sensitive: only Unicode
CF is acceptable
for user identifiers that are case *SENSITIVE*, we're okay
ACI is a special case of UniCF
we're not okay with any ACI comparison that can contain
non-ASCII characters
scribe: that is using ACI
if "g" == "G" then "ü" == "Ü"
we would recommend that CSS use case sensitive comparison
(universally)
if there is a feature that is case insensitive, then it should
be UniCF
restate: we would recommend that CSS adopt case sensitive
comparison going forward for all identifiers and language
elements, except where legacy considerations apply
ACI "doesn't really exist" (it's a shadow case of UniCF on an
ASCII namespace)
A custom data attribute is an attribute in no namespace whose
name starts with the string "data-", has at least one character
after the hyphen, is XML-compatible, and contains no uppercase
ASCII letters. All attribute names on HTML elements in HTML
documents get ASCII-lowercased automatically, so the
restriction on ASCII uppercase letters doesn't affect such
documents.
possible exception of list-style-type
resolved:
- case sensitive
- except legacy ascii-only items
- only if a WG still wants to make a new feature case
insensitive, then Unicode case folding
ACTION; addison: communicate case sensitivity to CSS
i18n recommends case sensitive
spec writing guidelines
AOB?
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: addison: coordinate with richard regarding KLReq
[recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2013/01/09-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: addison: remind everyone to comment on
css3-text-decoration by next week [recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2013/01/09-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[End of minutes]
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Richard Ishida
Internationalization Activity Lead
W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)
http://www.w3.org/International/
http://rishida.net/
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